[SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180

Thu Feb 17 10:08:08 AKST 2005

Ahhhhhh........so that's the problem!  Bill

Grow Pattern wrote:

> But Bill.... we do more than fly straight and level with our planes   
> (VBG)....
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Bill Glaze <mailto:billglaze at triad.rr.com>
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>     Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:42 PM
>     Subject: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180
>
>     Bob:
>     I just don't understand why all this pump/regulator/muffler
>     blocking stuff is necessary.  I've got 3 Mokis and none of them
>     need special treatment.  Bisson muffler, muffler pressure only,
>     (no check valve, nothing but fuel tubing) and a Mesjlik 18-10
>     prop, and the thing will go up our of sight.  Ask John Ferrell; he
>     was standing alongside me when I said:  "John, hold my beer and
>     watch this!  (Well, actually, you can disregard the beer!  That's
>     just Southern talk.<G>)  One of my conversations with Garrard
>     included a mention of pumps, etc. and he stated to me that "they
>     shouldn't be needed."  In my case, and experience with 3 different
>     engines, (all of which I still own) that has proven to be the
>     case.  One of the most reliable brands I have ever owned.  And
>     they all pull like tractors.
>
>     Bill Glaze
>
>     Bob Kane wrote:
>
>>All this talk of regulators, pumps, sticky O-rings,
>>rusty bearings . . . . . I don't know how you guys put
>>up with those two-strokes . . . . I'm glad I have my
>>YS's . . . . . .    ;)
>>
>>
>>--- Ed Alt <ed_alt at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>Hi John:
>>>Have you ever tried starting the Moki with a light
>>>backwards bump?  The 
>>>engine likes to be wet to do this, but it usually
>>>would start foward for me 
>>>when I did this.  I just gave the spinner a brisk
>>>twist to clockwise and 
>>>that would do it.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>>From: "John Ferrell" <johnferrell at earthlink.net>
>>>>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>>To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>>>Subject: Re: Moki 180
>>>>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:53:29 -0500
>>>>
>>>>I have a MOKI 1.8 in a Midwest Cap (80" span, 14
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>pounds). I installed a 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>Perry pump that uses crankcase pressure. Where the
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>tank is located makes no 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>difference. I am running Red Max all Synthetic fuel
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>with 5-7.5% nitro. I 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>have proven to my satisfaction that Dick Hanson's
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>advice that no Pitt's 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>style muffler provides adequate fuel pressure.
>>>>
>>>>The only strange behaviour that I experience is
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>that the first start of the 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>day takes a little effort and it wants to run
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>backwards for a while. I have 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>noticed others with the same problem without the
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>pump. No big deal, I can 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>live with that. The needle NEVER needs adjusting.
>>>>
>>>>I usually use a MAs 18-10 prop because it survives
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>ground to prop strikes 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>better than anything else and I seem to have a few
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>of them. I don't know if 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>APC even makes this size any more, but the two
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>piece with hub version was 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>expensive to fly.
>>>>
>>>>I don't fly it much because it just don't fly like
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>a pattern ship!
>>>    
>>>
>>>>John Ferrell
>>>>http://DixieNC.US
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: Ron Van Putte
>>>>  To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:14 AM
>>>>  Subject: Re: Moki 180
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Feb 16, 2005, at 8:53 AM, Rcmaster199 at aol.com
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>wrote:
>>>    
>>>
>>>>    To be honest, if weight wasn't an issue, I
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>would use the MOKI 180. I 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>have not used an engine more user friendly or more
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>robust than that one, 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>and has power to burn. Piped, propped and mounted
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>correctly, it could be 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>made fairly quiet. It was nice to just fuel it,
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>prime it, one flip start 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>it, and have it last several seasons without any
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>hint of a problem. No 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>bearings, no rods, no rings, or anything else for
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>that matter.
>>>    
>>>
>>>>  I have virtually no experience with MOKI
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>engines, other than to sell 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>fuel to owners and listen to complaints from the
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>ones who aren't convinced 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>that MOKIs want/need low % nitro fuel to operate
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>properly. Does anyone care 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>to comment which fuel works best in their MOKI?
>>>>
>>>>  Ron Van Putte
>>>>      
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>=====
>>Bob Kane
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>>
>>
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