Mid Air Question

Thu Feb 17 06:03:42 AKST 2005

Hi John,
It would do two things right off the bat:
1) the end maneuvers would be presented at even more unjudgeable angles. Imagine trying to see a vertical snap break in a stall turn at that angle.
2) We would all be flying at the same distance, again, just a shorter walk to the place where the pieces rain down.

There are, no doubt other consequences I hadn'r considered.
Regards,
	Dean

Dean Pappas
Sr. Design Engineer
Kodeos Communications
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-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of John Ferrell
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:02 AM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: Mid Air Question

A 70 degree box would allow aline to be flown closer to the flight position. 
That in turn would help avoid both airplanes at exactly the same distance.

Before you jump on that as being a great idea, it would be best to consider 
the unexplored side effects of such a rules change.

John Ferrell
http://DixieNC.US

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Kane" <getterflash at yahoo.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Mid Air Question

> Can you elaborate? How would no box prevent mid-airs?
>
>
> --- Nat Penton <natpenton at centurytel.net> wrote:
>
>> Ron, I suppose if it were not for providing a "box"
>> most sites could provide
>> two independent flight lines.     Nat
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mid Air Question
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>> >
>> > On Feb 16, 2005, at 1:34 PM, <bdbd at bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Here is what I don't get.  Most of these midairs
>> were at competitions. It
>> >> would seem to me that the competition
>> coordinator/ manager would set up
>> >> the flight lines where there is no interference
>> from multiple planes. It
>> >> would seem to me that if the coordinator was held
>> accountable for these
>> >> midairs there would be alot fewer incidents. If I
>> am flying a $2000 +
>> >> bird I would make dern sure that my plane was in
>> no jepardy of a mid air.
>> >> These planes are way to expensive to become
>> combat models. If I wanted to
>> >> fly combat I would choose a much cheaper and more
>> durable plane.  Why
>> >> don't we spend more time trying to make the
>> events safer and less money
>> >> and time building combat planes.
>> >
>> > First, midairs at contests are not common.  While
>> I agree that any midair
>> > is costly, there are other costs to consider.
>> Most fields are not
>> > conducive to having two flightlines set up such
>> there there would be no
>> > interference between airplanes.  If a contest is
>> held with only one
>> > flightline, either the number of entries would
>> have to be limited or the
>> > number of rounds would have to be limited.  For
>> example, if contest
>> > management was able to have eight hours of
>> competition flying on Saturday
>> > and five on Sunday, based on an average of 10
>> minutes per flight, there
>> > would be 78 flights possible over the two days.
>> If you have six rounds,
>> > there could be no more than 13 contestants.  If
>> you had 26 contestants,
>> > there could be no more than three rounds.
>> >
>> > Clubs need to at least break even to convince club
>> members to support
>> > hosting a contest.  More contestants are better
>> for the club.  Contestants
>> > want to fly as many rounds as possible, since they
>> spend the same amount
>> > of money to travel to the contest and pay for
>> entry fees, motel charges
>> > and meals, no matter the number of rounds.
>> >
>> > So, there are shared risks in flying contests with
>> two flightlines, but
>> > both the host club and contestants benefit in the
>> long run.
>> >
>> > Ron Van Putte
>> >
>> >>> From: Bob Richards <bob at toprudder.com>
>> >>> Date: 2005/02/16 Wed AM 08:36:54 EST
>> >>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: Mid Air Question
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm not sure about the sound AFTER the midair,
>> but I imagine the sound
>> >>> BEFORE the midair is something like: "Hay,
>> y'all, watch this!". :-)
>> >>>
>> >>> Bob R.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> rcaerobob at cox.net wrote:
>> >>> What sound most frequently is heard following
>> the D6 mid-airs??
>> >>>
>> >>> Bob Pastorello, El Reno, OK, USA
>> >>> rcaerobob at cox.net
>> >>> www.rcaerobats.net
>> >>>
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