[SPAM] ] Re: Moki 180

Wed Feb 16 09:39:01 AKST 2005

Good answer Mark, Thank you.

BTW I run/ran a 19 x Mejzlik on mine. Pulled a 100" Cub straight up...

Eric.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Atwood, Mark" <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:36 PM
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I've missed half this discussion, but in answer to this...I'm running a Moki 
1.8 in a Midwest Extra, with a Cline regulator and the fuel tank sitting 
back on the CG...and it's actually well below the carb too...and it works 
flawlessy.

NO chance without the Cline...after adding that, no problems.  Just make 
sure you follow the direction that says to have it as close as possible to 
the intake...that makes a difference.

-mark

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Behalf Of Grow Pattern
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:28 PM
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Jim,
         I don't know if the carb will like the Cline regulator so I didn't
state that as a solution. I don't have my Moki any more so I can't back that
idea up with a test.

Regards,

Eric.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:00 AM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: Re: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180

> Eric
> I bet that if you put a cline regulator system on the Moki, you could put
> the tank on the CG,and it would have a bigger window adjustment to the
> needle.
> This is the only way I made my Webra run...Cline.
>
> Jim Ivey
>>
>> From: "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net>
>> Date: 2005/02/16 Wed AM 10:50:31 EST
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180
>>
>> The Moki has a fuel draw issue. The tank has to be right up close behind
>> the engine. Would need a fuel feed system. For pattern use it is heavy
>> and needs a big mount. No idea what muffler/pipe would work on it
>> either???
>>
>> E.
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: Bill Glaze
>>   To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>   Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:45 AM
>>   Subject: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180
>>
>>
>>   Ron:
>>   I've been quite happy with mine; they have always started very easily
>> and run well.  I've heard all these stories about pumping/regulating them
>> etc. but I honestly don't know why one would need to do so, other than a
>> defective setup in the first place.  I just run muffler pressure.
>>   Now, fuel:
>>   I experimented with some 15% that I run in my Y.S.engines.  As the Moki
>> neared full throttle, I could plainly hear it rattling.  (with my
>> hearing, that in itself is a minor miracle.)  So, I drained the 15% and
>> put in some 5% that I happened to have.  Ran well, but after it heated
>> up, I could detect some detonation.  So, I drained out the 5% and put in
>> some FAI that I had been using.  Not only did the detonation cease, but I
>> picked up some 400 rpm.  I was curious, so I called Gerrard, (importer,
>> at that time.)  Jim said that I wasn't dreaming; the engine was designed
>> for FAI fuel, and that they absolutely would recommend no more than 5%
>> fuel, and that to be used only in the winter to help starting.  I don't
>> remember numbers, but I do remember that it will idle for 5 minutes at
>> 1800 rpm, and then immediately accelerate to full throttle when asked.
>> That's Jim Gerrard's criterion.  I'm not sure my Y.S. engines will do
>> that.  Since I've gotten so heavily into pattern, I have done very little
>> with anything else.  So, the information is probably a year old.  The
>> Moki's are in (Individually, of course<G>) a Midwest Extra 300 which
>> weighs 14 lb. 4 ozs.  and I use a Mesjlik 20-10 prop.  This is the only
>> airplane I have ever owned that will truly go out of sight straight up,
>> (John Ferrell was a witness on this!) and will do a true, round
>> knife-edge loop.  And, with the recommended Bisson muffler, I get quite a
>> few comments about how quiet the airplane is.  It sounds mellow, but I've
>> never Db'd it.  Fun to own and fly?  You bet! :-)
>>   HTH
>>   Bill Glaze
>>
>>   Ron Van Putte wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Feb 16, 2005, at 8:53 AM, Rcmaster199 at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>       To be honest, if weight wasn't an issue, I would use the MOKI 180.
>> I have not used an engine more user friendly or more robust than that
>> one, and has power to burn. Piped, propped and mounted correctly, it
>> could be made fairly quiet. It was nice to just fuel it, prime it, one
>> flip start it, and have it last several seasons without any hint of a
>> problem. No bearings, no rods, no rings, or anything else for that
>> matter.
>>
>>
>>     I have virtually no experience with MOKI engines, other than to sell
>> fuel to owners and listen to complaints from the ones who aren't
>> convinced that MOKIs want/need low % nitro fuel to operate properly. Does
>> anyone care to comment which fuel works best in their MOKI?
>>
>>     Ron Van Putte
>>
>>
>>
>
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