[SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180

Grow Pattern pattern4u at comcast.net
Wed Feb 16 08:28:20 AKST 2005


Jim,
         I don't know if the carb will like the Cline regulator so I didn't 
state that as a solution. I don't have my Moki any more so I can't back that 
idea up with a test.

Regards,

Eric.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:00 AM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: Re: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180


> Eric
> I bet that if you put a cline regulator system on the Moki, you could put 
> the tank on the CG,and it would have a bigger window adjustment to the 
> needle.
> This is the only way I made my Webra run...Cline.
>
> Jim Ivey
>>
>> From: "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net>
>> Date: 2005/02/16 Wed AM 10:50:31 EST
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180
>>
>> The Moki has a fuel draw issue. The tank has to be right up close behind 
>> the engine. Would need a fuel feed system. For pattern use it is heavy 
>> and needs a big mount. No idea what muffler/pipe would work on it 
>> either???
>>
>> E.
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: Bill Glaze
>>   To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>   Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:45 AM
>>   Subject: [SPAM] Re: Moki 180
>>
>>
>>   Ron:
>>   I've been quite happy with mine; they have always started very easily 
>> and run well.  I've heard all these stories about pumping/regulating them 
>> etc. but I honestly don't know why one would need to do so, other than a 
>> defective setup in the first place.  I just run muffler pressure.
>>   Now, fuel:
>>   I experimented with some 15% that I run in my Y.S.engines.  As the Moki 
>> neared full throttle, I could plainly hear it rattling.  (with my 
>> hearing, that in itself is a minor miracle.)  So, I drained the 15% and 
>> put in some 5% that I happened to have.  Ran well, but after it heated 
>> up, I could detect some detonation.  So, I drained out the 5% and put in 
>> some FAI that I had been using.  Not only did the detonation cease, but I 
>> picked up some 400 rpm.  I was curious, so I called Gerrard, (importer, 
>> at that time.)  Jim said that I wasn't dreaming; the engine was designed 
>> for FAI fuel, and that they absolutely would recommend no more than 5% 
>> fuel, and that to be used only in the winter to help starting.  I don't 
>> remember numbers, but I do remember that it will idle for 5 minutes at 
>> 1800 rpm, and then immediately accelerate to full throttle when asked. 
>> That's Jim Gerrard's criterion.  I'm not sure my Y.S. engines will do 
>> that.  Since I've gotten so heavily into pattern, I have done very little 
>> with anything else.  So, the information is probably a year old.  The 
>> Moki's are in (Individually, of course<G>) a Midwest Extra 300 which 
>> weighs 14 lb. 4 ozs.  and I use a Mesjlik 20-10 prop.  This is the only 
>> airplane I have ever owned that will truly go out of sight straight up, 
>> (John Ferrell was a witness on this!) and will do a true, round 
>> knife-edge loop.  And, with the recommended Bisson muffler, I get quite a 
>> few comments about how quiet the airplane is.  It sounds mellow, but I've 
>> never Db'd it.  Fun to own and fly?  You bet! :-)
>>   HTH
>>   Bill Glaze
>>
>>   Ron Van Putte wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Feb 16, 2005, at 8:53 AM, Rcmaster199 at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>       To be honest, if weight wasn't an issue, I would use the MOKI 180. 
>> I have not used an engine more user friendly or more robust than that 
>> one, and has power to burn. Piped, propped and mounted correctly, it 
>> could be made fairly quiet. It was nice to just fuel it, prime it, one 
>> flip start it, and have it last several seasons without any hint of a 
>> problem. No bearings, no rods, no rings, or anything else for that 
>> matter.
>>
>>
>>     I have virtually no experience with MOKI engines, other than to sell 
>> fuel to owners and listen to complaints from the ones who aren't 
>> convinced that MOKIs want/need low % nitro fuel to operate properly. Does 
>> anyone care to comment which fuel works best in their MOKI?
>>
>>     Ron Van Putte
>>
>>
>>
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