** del klipped ** Re: NEWEST "Pattern Field Equipment"

[Dean Pappas]

OK, so it worked twice!

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: discussion-request at nsrca.org on behalf of Del K. Rykert 
	Sent: Sun 2/13/2005 6:25 AM 
	To: discussion at nsrca.org 
	Cc: 
	Subject: ** del klipped ** Re: NEWEST "Pattern Field Equipment"
	
	

	An FYI.. I once had taken off with ailerons disconnected and went into slow
	roll on lift off to 40 to 45º bank. Using rudder and elevator to fly low
	circles picked some high weeds at edge of field using weeds as carrier net
	and flew it into wall of weeds and bushes. Didn't even break the prop. Was
	lucky that day.
	
	    del
	
	----- Original Message -----
	From: "Dean Pappas" <d.pappas at kodeos.com>
	To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
	Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 6:24 PM
	Subject: RE: NEWEST "Pattern Field Equipment"
	
	
	> Sorry to hear about it, Steve!
	>
	> I once saw a NiCad electric catch fire ... well actually set fire to the
	> grass, after a crash and short. It was a 60-sized e-pattern model done by
	> sometimes IMAC and Pattern competitor Bob Afflerback, but at the time he
	> was writing the e-flight column in Flying Models. The batteries were
	> re-used after the new heat shrink was applied.
	>
	> In the future, if the ailerons go dead, slow up, pull the nose up, and use
	> the heck out of the rudder. I watched a Pattern flier save a ship that
	> way, once, a long time ago. Let's put it this way, I was a teenager, at
	> the time. Of course, his ailerons were at neutral.
	>
	> Regards and Thanks,
	> Dean
	>
	>
	> -----Original Message-----
	> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org on behalf of Steve & Cindy Kessler
	> Sent: Fri 2/11/2005 7:51 PM
	> To: discussion at nsrca.org
	> Cc:
	> Subject: Re: NEWEST "Pattern Field Equipment"
	>
	>
	>
	> Dean,
	>
	> I had a brain fart and forgot to plug in my ailerons.  The plane had a
	> gentle roll over on takeoff and went in at a 30deg angle.  The nose of the
	> plane broke off and the batteries impacted the front of the cowling.  One
	> battery pack shorted and caught fire.  Except for the loss of the plane
	> and
	> battery, I gained something.  I have a heavy respect for the fire
	> potential
	> of any LiPo.  With proper handeling, I believe they are safe.
	>
	> Steve
	> ----- Original Message -----
	> From: "Dean Pappas" <d.pappas at kodeos.com>
	> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
	> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 1:03 PM
	> Subject: RE: NEWEST "Pattern Field Equipment"
	>
	>
	> Hello Steve,
	> It's time for the post crash investigation:
	> Caught on fire during takeoff?
	> Is there any more data you can offer us?
	> Did something questionable happen to the battery just prior?
	>
	> signed,
	> Curious in Joisey
	>
	>
	> Dean Pappas
	> Sr. Design Engineer
	> Kodeos Communications
	> 111 Corporate Blvd.
	> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
	> (908) 222-7817 phone
	> (908) 222-2392 fax
	> d.pappas at kodeos.com
	>
	>
	> -----Original Message-----
	> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
	> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Steve Kessler
	> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 2:01 PM
	> To: discussion at nsrca.org
	> Subject: Re: NEWEST "Pattern Field Equipment"
	>
	
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