park fliers

[John Pavlick]

Yeah, or THAT. That's too easy. I fly Futaba, remember?
John Pavlick
http://www.idseng.com


  -----Original Message-----
  From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On
Behalf Of David Lockhart
  Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 12:19 PM
  To: discussion at nsrca.org
  Subject: Re: park fliers


  Spektrum.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: John Pavlick
    To: discussion at nsrca.org
    Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 12:59 AM
    Subject: RE: park fliers


     Actually it sounds pretty tough to do already and remember this will
really only work if EVERYONE complies. To put that into a real world
perspective, there are still people using old non-narrow band radios (I'm
not naming anyone but I've seen it) even though this is "illegal". Who
enforces any of these "laws"? Their argument is "My radio still works fine,
I didn't see the need to send it in and pay to have it changed when all of
that narrow-band stuff was happening". Now the manufacturers refuse to
service the old radios so even if someone wanted to comply, they couldn't
unless they sent it to a repair facility. Look on eBay. How many of those
old radios ("works fine, it was my father's") do you think end up back in
service with a new owner who got a good deal on it? Scary isn't it? The
point is what would make the current crop of "park flier" radios and their
owners any different?
     Another issue: how would losing some of "our" channels affect the NAT's
?
     I like the idea that some of those "toy" airplanes are on 27 MHz. Maybe
use that band for park fliers and leave the 72 MHz band alone. You can
change Tx crystals in that band "legally" too so you can make low cost
transmitters that don't require a modular RF deck. I bet if GWS brought out
a low-cost 27 MHz single-conversion Rx and a transmitter to go along with
it, the phase-in would start almost immediately.
    John Pavlick
    http://www.idseng.com


     -----Original Message-----
    From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Jerry Stebbins
    Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:12 PM
    To: Discussion
    Subject: park fliers


      One approach has not been brought up that could seriously help the
problem. Take away  "X" number of our channels and assign them to E-ONLY.
Xtals sold only for e-fliers rx's-change the pin spacing for the mass
produced ones, and the e-fliers Tx's made with xtals only available for
those channels. Re-call all those out for "fix" at no expense. Advertise on
the impact to them and their parents for responsibility if you do not get it
done. Put some "fear" like teeth into doing it. Won't get them all, but can
sweep them up as they are seen and found, to get them redone.
      Make xtal adapters for those who want to convert to their "big" radios
with legal "sign-off" when purchased, for their responsible use.
      Replace FREE all TX and RX xtals, thru AMA, for existing radios on
those frequencies.
      Probably a lot more holes and variables I missed, and would take a
concerted effort to get all "toy" radio mfgs. to comply. Seems like AMA and
all their membership, and hobby shops, etc. should have some strong
influence on them.
      May take an FCC order to get it done--with some serious legal teeth
for mfg. of non compliant radios.e.g. put the lawers on their trail for
selling illegal stuff if someone gets hurt.
      Lots tougher to do than it sounds, but the sooner we do something the
fewer to correct.
      Jerry

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