[SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: Judges Caller

Jim Ivey jivey61 at bellsouth.net
Fri Aug 5 03:53:11 AKDT 2005 

Eric
 I can't believe you fired the cook.

Jim Ivey
> 
> From: "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net>
> Date: 2005/08/04 Thu PM 11:22:13 EDT
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: Judges Caller
> 
> I agree and have been guilty on two counts in the past. 1, for talking and 
> 2, for fixing/running a baukly motor.
> 
> My caller, when I use one, is asked to call two maneuvers at a time. I need 
> the center maneuver and the turn round to start the schedule and then the 
> turn around and the center maneuver in pairs after that. Clues like BIG 
> immelmann for squares on corner from the top etc. really help the pilot but 
> probably not the judge.
> 
> One judge (7 Nat's ago) ordered her to call out loud so he could hear the 
> maneuvers, She called them in pairs as she had been trained. Confused the 
> heck out him. He was later removed because of complaints from other pilots.
> 
> There is no rule requiring the pilot to have the "caller" speak or even 
> stand next to him.
> 
> My caller got fired this year because she switched off the radio and hence 
> the fuel injector TWO times on her way out to the runway> She was doing it 
> accidentally with her wrist. Mark Atwood substituted for her and did 
> absolutely nothing for my scores. His mini-skirt was too short - an ugly 
> picture...
> 
> Eric.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:43 PM
> Subject: [SPAM] Re: Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: Judges Caller
> 
> 
> > Eric
> > Remember a prior nats Masters finals when the guys in the pavilion were 
> > criticizing the flights and the pilots complained because they could hear 
> > them,while they were flying?Judges could be 30 ft back and still be heard. 
> > I think this is a pilots sacred time for everyone to shut up and 
> > watch.When he is done then the shouting and cheers can begin.
> >
> > Jim Ivey
> >>
> >> From: "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net>
> >> Date: 2005/08/04 Thu PM 06:39:09 EDT
> >> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: Judges Caller
> >>
> >> The judges should be far enough back for you not to hear them.
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
> >> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 5:20 PM
> >> Subject: [SPAM] Re: Re: Judges Caller
> >>
> >>
> >> > OK, My time.
> >> > I think if someone else other than my caller was calling the manouvers 
> >> > at
> >> > a different time than when I want the manouver,it would mess me up
> >> > bigtime. It is hard to keep your mind on the flight with people talking 
> >> > in
> >> > the background.
> >> > Now having said that ,I could instruct my caller to say the manouvers 
> >> > loud
> >> > enough that the judges could hear. To me that would be less 
> >> > distracting.
> >> > Matter of fact we generally ask that to be done in local contests. It
> >> > works pretty good and another person is not needed.
> >> >
> >> > Jim Ivey
> >> >>
> >> >> From: ronlock at comcast.net
> >> >> Date: 2005/08/04 Thu PM 04:13:14 EDT
> >> >> To: discussion at nsrca.org,  discussion at nsrca.org
> >> >> CC: "Rick Wallace" <rickwallace45 at hotmail.com>
> >> >> Subject: Re: Judges Caller
> >> >>
> >> >> Agree with the Judges caller.  It will help, and is relatively easy to
> >> >> accomplish.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ron Lockhart
> >> >>
> >> >> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> >> >>
> >> >> Don Ramsey was kind enough to provide a judges' caller for the FAI
> >> >> Finals, and it was a great help... not to mention a source of 
> >> >> occasional
> >> >> harmless smiles.
> >> >> I believe that the Pilot's caller is exactly that -- an assistant to 
> >> >> the
> >> >> pilot. What goes on between them the pilot and caller shouldn't go any
> >> >> further than that. If the judges need a caller ( and that IS often a
> >> >> great help) that caller should be a separate person.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >From: "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net>
> >> >> >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> >> >To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >> >> >Subject: Re: Performance Judging?  Trial Balloon
> >> >> >Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:08:25 -0400
> >> >> >
> >> >> >A judges caller would work.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Eric.
> >> >> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >   From: Chuck Hochhalter
> >> >> >   To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> >> >   Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:43 AM
> >> >> >   Subject: RE: Performance Judging? Trial Balloon
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >   I think this would hurt my scores.  Many times I have heard my 
> >> >> > caller
> >> >> > go oh// *(&*(&  wrong rudder or you almost flopped that or maybe 
> >> >> > they
> >> >> > were looking down and didn't see that..  I don't care for the judges 
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > hear my caller/coach/critic mumble things like your figure 8 
> >> >> > appeared
> >> >> > to be a snowman etc or help in calling center.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >   CHUCK
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >   -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >   From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> >> >> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jay Marshall
> >> >> >   Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:23 AM
> >> >> >   To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> >> >   Subject: RE: Performance Judging? Trial Balloon
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >   It would be interesting to use a small wireless headset/mike on 
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > caller so the judges, with a receive headset, could know absolutely
> >> >> > what the next maneuver was supposed to be.
> >> >>
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