[SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: Judges Caller

Thu Aug 4 19:22:24 AKDT 2005

I agree and have been guilty on two counts in the past. 1, for talking and 
2, for fixing/running a baukly motor.

My caller, when I use one, is asked to call two maneuvers at a time. I need 
the center maneuver and the turn round to start the schedule and then the 
turn around and the center maneuver in pairs after that. Clues like BIG 
immelmann for squares on corner from the top etc. really help the pilot but 
probably not the judge.

One judge (7 Nat's ago) ordered her to call out loud so he could hear the 
maneuvers, She called them in pairs as she had been trained. Confused the 
heck out him. He was later removed because of complaints from other pilots.

There is no rule requiring the pilot to have the "caller" speak or even 
stand next to him.

My caller got fired this year because she switched off the radio and hence 
the fuel injector TWO times on her way out to the runway> She was doing it 
accidentally with her wrist. Mark Atwood substituted for her and did 
absolutely nothing for my scores. His mini-skirt was too short - an ugly 
picture...

Eric.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:43 PM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: Judges Caller

> Eric
> Remember a prior nats Masters finals when the guys in the pavilion were 
> criticizing the flights and the pilots complained because they could hear 
> them,while they were flying?Judges could be 30 ft back and still be heard. 
> I think this is a pilots sacred time for everyone to shut up and 
> watch.When he is done then the shouting and cheers can begin.
>
> Jim Ivey
>>
>> From: "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net>
>> Date: 2005/08/04 Thu PM 06:39:09 EDT
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: Judges Caller
>>
>> The judges should be far enough back for you not to hear them.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 5:20 PM
>> Subject: [SPAM] Re: Re: Judges Caller
>>
>>
>> > OK, My time.
>> > I think if someone else other than my caller was calling the manouvers 
>> > at
>> > a different time than when I want the manouver,it would mess me up
>> > bigtime. It is hard to keep your mind on the flight with people talking 
>> > in
>> > the background.
>> > Now having said that ,I could instruct my caller to say the manouvers 
>> > loud
>> > enough that the judges could hear. To me that would be less 
>> > distracting.
>> > Matter of fact we generally ask that to be done in local contests. It
>> > works pretty good and another person is not needed.
>> >
>> > Jim Ivey
>> >>
>> >> From: ronlock at comcast.net
>> >> Date: 2005/08/04 Thu PM 04:13:14 EDT
>> >> To: discussion at nsrca.org,  discussion at nsrca.org
>> >> CC: "Rick Wallace" <rickwallace45 at hotmail.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: Judges Caller
>> >>
>> >> Agree with the Judges caller.  It will help, and is relatively easy to
>> >> accomplish.
>> >>
>> >> Ron Lockhart
>> >>
>> >> -------------- Original message -------------- 
>> >>
>> >> Don Ramsey was kind enough to provide a judges' caller for the FAI
>> >> Finals, and it was a great help... not to mention a source of 
>> >> occasional
>> >> harmless smiles.
>> >> I believe that the Pilot's caller is exactly that -- an assistant to 
>> >> the
>> >> pilot. What goes on between them the pilot and caller shouldn't go any
>> >> further than that. If the judges need a caller ( and that IS often a
>> >> great help) that caller should be a separate person.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >From: "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net>
>> >> >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> >> >To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> >> >Subject: Re: Performance Judging?  Trial Balloon
>> >> >Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:08:25 -0400
>> >> >
>> >> >A judges caller would work.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Eric.
>> >> >   ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >   From: Chuck Hochhalter
>> >> >   To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> >> >   Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:43 AM
>> >> >   Subject: RE: Performance Judging? Trial Balloon
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >   I think this would hurt my scores.  Many times I have heard my 
>> >> > caller
>> >> > go oh// *(&*(&  wrong rudder or you almost flopped that or maybe 
>> >> > they
>> >> > were looking down and didn't see that..  I don't care for the judges 
>> >> > to
>> >> > hear my caller/coach/critic mumble things like your figure 8 
>> >> > appeared
>> >> > to be a snowman etc or help in calling center.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >   CHUCK
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >   -----Original Message-----
>> >> >   From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>> >> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jay Marshall
>> >> >   Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:23 AM
>> >> >   To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> >> >   Subject: RE: Performance Judging? Trial Balloon
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >   It would be interesting to use a small wireless headset/mike on 
>> >> > the
>> >> > caller so the judges, with a receive headset, could know absolutely
>> >> > what the next maneuver was supposed to be.
>> >>
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