Performance Judging? Trial Balloon

Wed Aug 3 07:56:03 AKDT 2005

Actually... what you really need is a breakdown by maneuver of the spread.  You'll probably find that the most spreads come on the more challenging maneuvers - perhaps this is an indicator where we need more training.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2005 at  8:51 AM, Don Ramsey wrote:

> Wow, looks like judging of Intermediate was excellent.  Could be that when 
> > snaps and spins enter the picture the score are much more diverse.  A 2 
> > point spead in the 15% range is acceptable but this doesn't seem to be very 
> > good overall. To summarize:
> > 
> > 2 pt spread - Average
> >    Intermediate  13.1%
> >    Advance   24.15%
> >    Masters   20.11%
> >    FAI   25.23%
> > 
> > 3 pt spread - Average
> >    Intermediate  2.94%
> >    Advance   6.55%
> >    Masters   4.87%
> >    FAI  5.20%
> > 
> > Judging needs some more work...
> > 
> > Don
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Gene Maurice" <gene.maurice at comcast.net>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:36 AM
> > Subject: RE: Performance Judging? Trial Balloon
> > 
> > 
> > > Earl, Buddy,
> > >
> > > Here it is..............
> > >
> > > Intermediate - 14 Contestants x 15 In-Flight Maneuvers = 210 Scoring
> > > Opportunities
> > > Round                   1      2      3      4      5      6      Avg
> > > No of  2pt "Spreads"    26     31     21     29     17     41     27.50
> > > % of 210                12.38% 14.76% 10.00% 13.81% 8.10%  19.52% 13.10%
> > >
> > > No of  3pt "Spreads"    4      11     6      6      1      9      6.17
> > > % of 210                1.90%  5.24%  2.86%  2.86%  0.48%  4.29%  2.94%
> > >
> > > Advanced - 22 Contestants x 17 In-Flight Maneuvers = 374 Scoring
> > > Opportunities
> > > Round                   1      2      3      4      5      6      Avg
> > > No of  2pt "Spreads"    102    69     163    82     77     49     90.33
> > > % of 374                27.27% 18.45% 43.58% 21.93% 20.59% 13.10% 24.15%
> > >
> > > No of  3pt "Spreads"    23     19     67     18     11     9      24.50
> > > % of 374                6.15%  5.08%  17.91% 4.81%  2.94%  2.41%  6.55%
> > >
> > > Masters Preliminaries - 38 Contestants x 21 In-Flight Maneuvers = 798
> > > Scoring Opportunities
> > > Round                   1      2      3      4      5      6      Avg
> > > No of  2pt "Spreads"    130    108    208    107    210    200    160.50
> > > % of 798                16.29% 13.53% 26.07% 13.41% 26.32% 25.06% 20.11%
> > >
> > > No of  3pt "Spreads"    34     28     59     24     49     39     38.83
> > > % of 798                4.26%  3.51%  7.39%  3.01%  6.14%  4.89%  4.87%
> > >
> > > FAI Preliminaries - 29 Contestants x 21 In-Flight Maneuvers = 609 Scoring
> > > Opportunities
> > > Round                   1      2      3      4      5      6      Avg
> > > No of  2pt "Spreads"    129    155    119    229    114    176    153.67
> > > % of 609                21.18% 25.45% 19.54% 37.60% 18.72% 28.90% 25.23%
> > >
> > > No of  3pt "Spreads"    18     38     16     59     21     38     31.67
> > > % of 609                2.96%  6.24%  2.63%  9.69%  3.45%  6.24%  5.20%
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gene Maurice
> > > gene.maurice at comcast.net
> > > Plano, TX
> > > AMA 3408, NSRCA 877
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] 
> > > On
> > > Behalf Of Earl Haury
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:31 AM
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > Subject: Re: Performance Judging? Trial Balloon
> > >
> > > Gene
> > >
> > > Good info, and pretty reasonable spreads. It would be interesting to see
> > > like data from the other classes. One might expect Masters to have the
> > > lowest spread, as they are being judged by the most experienced fliers 
> > > (not
> > > necessarily judges).
> > >
> > > Earl
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: Gene Maurice
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:51 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Performance Judging? Trial Balloon
> > >
> > >
> > > Don,
> > >
> > > Here's some stats to mull over........
> > >
> > > I've pulled all of the scores into a spreadsheet and identified every
> > > instance where the difference between any of the 3 judges raw scores was
> > > plus or minus more than 2 points, then plus or minus more than 3 points
> > >
> > > Masters Prelims had 38 pilots actually flying x 21 scored maneuvers
> > > (excluded TO and Land.) = 798  "judging opportunities" in each of 6 
> > > rounds.
> > >
> > > Round                                       1          2          3
> > > 4          5          6
> > > No of  2pt "Spreads"                   130       108       208       107
> > > 210       200
> > > % of 798                                   16.29% 13.53% 26.07% 13.41%
> > > 26.32% 25.06%
> > >
> > > No of  3pt "Spreads"                   34         28         59         24
> > > 49         39
> > > % of 798                                   4.26%   3.51%   7.39%   3.01%
> > > 6.14%   4.89%
> > >
> > > Gene Maurice
> > > gene.maurice at comcast.net
> > > Plano, TX
> > > AMA 3408, NSRCA 877
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] 
> > > On
> > > Behalf Of Don Ramsey
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:02 PM
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > Subject: Re: Performance Judging? Trial Balloon
> > >
> > > We have heard from a lot of Advanced pilots about the judging on that 
> > > line.
> > > I would like some feed back from Masters and FAI on the prelims judges. 
> > > My
> > > very limited survey seems to indicated that those lines had very good
> > > judging.  I had a lot of 5s & 6s and some good scores but overall my 
> > > scores,
> > >
> > > in my opinion, were spot on.  I'm only asking about the prelims.
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > >
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