[SPAM] Re: Icepoint Mount Mod

Sun Apr 17 10:37:00 AKDT 2005

On Apr 17, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Jerry Budd wrote:

> Hi Bill, William, & Bob (& everyone else!):
>
> How to handle a nose ring support for airplanes that either have a  
> removable cowling or no structure ahead of the firewall (excepting the  
> motor/mount) can be a difficult problem to solve.  I have a solution  
> in the works that I should be testing in the next month or so with  
> availability about a month after that (if all goes well).
>
> When I have something to show I'll put an announcement out on the list  
> (as well as in an ad in the K-Factor).

I just have to jump in here.  I have one of Jerry's mounts and am  
impressed with the quality and the innovative way he's engineered it.   
Engineered is the operative word here.  Jerry is an engineer and, since  
I am one as well, I understand a lot of his mindset.  An engineer never  
really gets finished engineering anything.  We are constantly figuring  
out ways to make things better.  If you see something in production,  
it's probably because a program manager stepped in and said, "Enough!   
We're going with the current design and get these things out the door!"

Jerry will probably take longer than he's estimated to get the nose  
ring support designed and available, but you can be confident that it  
will be a good product.

Ron Van Putte

>> Bob:
>> Thanks.  I just knew that if anybody had it figured out, it would be  
>> you!<G>  However, inasmuch as I've been flying the Focus with the  
>> Dave Brown ($6, real money!) hard mount for some 3 years now,  
>> completely trouble free, I believe I'll stick with it until I build  
>> (or have a good builder build) a stiff-nose airplane for me.  
>> (Temptation?  Brio?   I Dunno) Right now, I'm completely happy with  
>> my Focus 1; folks tell me that I'll like the Focus 2 better.  We'll  
>> see.  I truly enjoy the idea of a top-loader fuselage; it'll make me  
>> keep my nose inside the airplane more to see what's going on in  
>> there.  I recently found a problem with the elevator pushrod (gulp!)  
>> with the Focus 1 that I wouldn't even have known about, if not for  
>> the necessity of opening up the pipe tunnel for maintenance on  
>> another component.
>> Bill
>>
>> Bob Pastorello wrote:
>>
>>> The Focus needs either a Hyde Type A, or the Budd with a nose ring.  
>>> I modified the Arresti's last year (two of them) with mounts for a  
>>> nose ring that basically was a series of spruce longerons anchored  
>>> at angles from the edges of the firewall, epoxied to a ply 'plate'  
>>> just a bit larger than the nosering.  Have photos if interested. It  
>>> was a pain in the b*&# also, but worked.
>>>
>>> I agree with Bill - the Budd needs to have a nose ring, and you have  
>>> to be willing to put one in, just like the Hyde AR mount.
>>>     This conversion I've done works, and ultimately will be worth it  
>>> (to me, anyway)
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <mailto:billglaze at triad.rr.com>Bill Glaze
>>> To: <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>discussion at nsrca.org
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:24 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Icepoint Mount Mod
>>>
>>> I haven't seen any indication that Jerry makes such an animal. And,  
>>> while I appreciate what Bob is doing with his Icepoint, I don't  
>>> believe the Focus would lend itself to such treatment.  So, until I  
>>> do something else as far as airplanes go, it looks as if I'll be  
>>> holding the Budd mount until needed for a stiff-nose project.
>>> BTW:  Just got my Technician class license again; should be on the  
>>> FCC web site before too many more days.  Don't know if they are  
>>> going to give me my old license back, (N7WWS) or a new one for back  
>>> here in 4 land.  We'll see.  And, I'm going to start studying for my  
>>> general class before too long.
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> William C. Harden wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill,
>>>>
>>> I have the same question.  I bought the Hyde mount with the integral  
>>> nose ring for my Focus II.  I have not seen the Jerry Budd mount and  
>>> was wondering if he also makes a similar mount with an integral nose  
>>> ring.  From your e-mail below it sounds like there isn't one  
>>> available from Jerry Budd.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:  
>>> <mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org>discussion-request at nsrca.org  
>>> [<mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org>mailto:discussion- 
>>> request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:22 AM
>>> To: <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>discussion at nsrca.org
>>> Subject: Re: Icepoint Mount Mod
>>>
>>> Bob: I see the problem with the Icepoint.  Can sure be frustrating.  
>>> I've also been wondering: I just got a new Jerry Budd engine mount.   
>>> Excellent job, well thought out.  Jerry, however, calls for a nose  
>>> ring with the mount. How are the guys handling a nose ring with a  
>>> removable cowling, like the Focus?  Seems to me as if the cowl would  
>>> tear loose from the fuselage if subjected to the stress/vibration of  
>>> a nose ring. I've had perfect satisfaction from a Dave Brown solid  
>>> mount, (cost the princely sum of $6) on my focus 1, but I've still  
>>> been thinking of retrofitting my Focus 2 before it's first flight.
>>> How would you handle it?
>>>
>>> Bill Glaze
>>>
>>> Bob Pastorello wrote:
>>>
>>> In case there are any of you like me, who aren't at a contest (and  
>>> should be), and aren't flying (because we have nothing ready)....  
>>> here's the tale of tribulation on how much fun it is to retrofit a  
>>> flat firewall that is spaced way farther than it should be....
>>>
>>> <http://www.rcaerobats.net/Icepoint/Icepoint_Main.htm>http:// 
>>> www.rcaerobats.net/Icepoint/Icepoint_Main.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Pastorello
>>> <http://www.rcaerobats.net>www.rcaerobats.net
>>> <mailto:rcaerobob at cox.net>rcaerobob at cox.net
>
>
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