Temptation

[Tom Hinton]

Wayne, Do you use odorless or regular CA?
Tom
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Wayne Galligan 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 5:01 PM
  Subject: Re: Temptation


  After all this discussion about the material in this type of lay-up I just had to chime in.    I think the guys at AeroSlave have got it nailed then.  The use of coremat as part of the composite lay-up seems to have been a good choice of materials.   Everything I have glued into my two airplanes is glued with C/A except for the landing gear plate(epoxy)  This stuff takes to C/A like a duck to water.  When used with C/fiber or glass it proves to be a very stiff lay-up.   Their new Symphony that has a huge fuse cross section shows the advantages of using this material.   In my Aries I have no formers its that stiff(using the c/fiber layup).   
  NO I am not sponsored..... but I am an indentured servant.

  Wayne G.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: mike mueller 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:40 PM
    Subject: Re: Temptation


     Be real careful with anything you glue to the inside of the fuse. We have had many an experience with things falling off. Bobby almost crashed once when his wing adjuster came unsecured in flight. I've gotten into the habit of throwing a little CF chop around the critical spots like that to secure them better. Mike

    Bob Kane <getterflash at yahoo.com> wrote: 
      I just remembered some advive from Charles Williams
      when gluing parts in the fuselage . . . the fuselage
      construction is chemically compatible with CA, but the
      heat generated when it kicks can melt the foam
      slightly and cause a dimple. 


      --- Jeff Hughes wrote:

      > Yeah, the fuselage is incredibly stiff and strong,
      > it's just scared me when I scratched right through
      > it with the scriber. Luckily it's where I'm going to
      > remove material anyways for the elevator.
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com 
      > To: discussion at nsrca.org 
      > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:54 PM
      > Subject: Re: Temptation
      > 
      > 
      > Jeff, the TAVS type of composite often places a
      > polyurethane semi rigid foam between two layers of
      > fairly light glass cloth. Glass is easily cut into
      > because it is quite thin. Once you break into the
      > urethane foam, cutting goes very fast. Polyurethane
      > foam makes the fuses both rigid and light. Composite
      > ARF's products first introduced this construction
      > type to the modeling public with their large 40% TOC
      > planes. It's a great method for building models.
      > Rest assured the Temptation fuse is very strong.
      > Believe me I know. I have stressed mine to max and
      > expecting to pick up pieces, yet surprised to see
      > the plane intact.
      > 
      > The gear mounting plates Guerin/Davis et al have
      > designed in, are the most robust in the business.
      > The European manufacturers should copy this
      > approach. I have seen too many ZNLine and PLProd
      > gear plates break prematurely on a slightly hard
      > landing. 
      > 
      > When you scratch the glass with the scriber of the
      > height gauge, be careful not to cut the glass. 
      > 
      > MattK
      > I cut the hole for the wingtube on my Temptation
      > tonight. That is really wierd how stiff the fuse is,
      > even to squeeze it, but how easy the dremel sanding
      > wheel ate through. I have a set of vertical verniers
      > that I used to scratch a horizontal line at the
      > proper location, and it easily broke through the
      > gelcoat. Not like all my previous fiberglass planes
      > at all.
      > 


      =====
      Bob Kane
      getterflash at yahoo.com



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