election vote

Thu Nov 18 08:55:55 AKST 2004

I agree.  There are certain candidates out there that do not trust anyone/anything and tend to feel that a process is bad without giving it a chance first.  We're all adults (I think) and I have a philosophy that I will trust someone, or trust a process, explicitly until that trust is broken.  I'm no fool either - I've been around long enough to know when someone is trying to shake up something and to stir the pot.

Just a little history here too - in the last officer elections - they were all uncontested and the voting and counting of votes were NOT done in accordance with the by-laws.  I didn't hear these people screaming about the process at that time - but those same people are screaming about the process now and saying it is against the by-laws.

Just for the record - I couldn't care less who counts the votes - my only reasoning for having Maureen do it is that she has nothing to lose/gain by the election and thus would be very impartial and fair.  We'd also get a much higher return on the ballots if we combine the ballots with the renewals that are mailed out.  If we ask people to mail renewals to one place and mail ballots to another place - where do you think their main focus will be?  Mailing in the renewal and forgetting about the ballot.  We had a chance here to get a lot higher return on the ballots cast instead of a lousy return we probably will get by having them mailed to a 3rd party.  I'd much have a higher return on ballots cast which to me is a better indicator of where the membership stands and of whom they support.

Vote early and vote often.  ;)  

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Thompson III <mrandmrst at comcast.net>
Sent: Nov 18, 2004 9:14 AM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: election vote

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  <DIV 
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  <A title=mrandmrst at comcast.net href="mailto:mrandmrst at comcast.net">Ken 
  Thompson III</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=tony at radiosouthrc.com 
  href="mailto:tony at radiosouthrc.com">tony at radiosouthrc.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:47 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: election vote</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This sounds like the right move, to avoid a 
  possible controversy, however I for one am disheartened that this maneuver is 
  necessary.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Having only been a member of the NSRCA for one 
  year I guess that the heavily political scene has escaped my notice.  I 
  knew about the AMA's politics, but not realizing that it also followed our 
  group was just plain ignorance on my part.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As for myself, I'm just here for the chance to 
  become a better pilot and to have as much fun as possible, with my limited 
  skills.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ken Thompson</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>D4 Sportsman, again</FONT></DIV>
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    <A title=tony at radiosouthrc.com 
    href="mailto:tony at radiosouthrc.com">tony at radiosouthrc.com</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion at nsrca.org 
    href="mailto:Discussion at Nsrca.Org">Discussion at Nsrca.Org</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:11 
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> election vote</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Members:<BR><BR>In response to the e-mail that 
    Frank sent to the membership, I feel that I need to clarify my 
    position.  First, I was unaware that AMA counted the ballots in a prior 
    election.  Somehow, I didn't get this info.  Second, I take 
    offence to the notion that I am in complete violation of the rules.  If 
    the person who wrote the by-laws would have put "SHALL" instead of "SHOULD", 
    this would not have given me the option.  I read that as something 
    that we might need to do, but not an absolute requirement.  It is 
    apparent that this needs to be re-written.   </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>However, I don't see AMA counting the votes as 
    any "fairer" that NSRCA doing it.  I have now heard about ballots that 
    were not counted when AMA did it the last time.  I have no way of 
    knowing if this is true or not, but just the rumor that this might 
    have happened makes me think we would be much better off to have a 
    completely separate organization that has nothing to do with model airplanes 
    to count the votes.  AMA sends it's election ballots to an independent 
    accounting firm for this, and that is what I think we should do as 
    well.  This way, there is no connection between NSRCA and the 
    tabulators.  </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So, that is the direction I am going to go with 
    this.  I am checking into an accounting firm that will handle this and 
    go that way.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have also directed the NSRCA Secretary to 
    forward the ballot information to our new publisher and they will handle the 
    printing and mailing of the ballot so that the NSRCA officers will be out of 
    this loop as well.  </FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tony Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace 
    Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL 32505<BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><A 
    href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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