Warning to Masters Pilots

[David Lockhart]

Having read much of the concern about the Avalanche - 

- I think pilots with very good speed control will have less problems with this maneuver - in part because they will have the plane slowed down before the snap, and in part because having a consistent entry speed will make the snap easier to hit consistently.
- Most planes need less control throw for snaps at higher speeds.

A way to "warm up" to this maneuver might be to fly a pretty pronounced flat spot on the bottom of the loop - it will give some time for speed to bleed off and allow a good visual of the attitude and track of the plane prior to snap and after the snap.  Once the snap is being completed comfortably and consistently, gradually reduce the flat spot until it is gone.

Regards,
Dave Lockhart
DaveL322 at comcast.net
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ed Hartley 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:48 AM
  Subject: Re: Warning to Masters Pilots


  I've flown this Masters thing just two times now. I managed to get through it both times, not a thing of beauty but I believe this is going to be one of the best flowing and attractive patterns we've had in years!

  Another note on the avalanche, you just need a ton of power to get back to the top. I do it with no power coming down hill so the plane was almost stopped after the snap but getting back was not a problem. Once again, not a thing of beauty but it will get better and better I betcha!

  Ed
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:20 AM
    Subject: Re: Warning to Masters Pilots


    GEEZ WHEEZ, what are youze guys??? Masters animals or newbie whinnies?? LOL 
    hey jus' kiddin' and like Ed sez, "just do it"

    MattK

    In a message dated 11/15/2004 10:58:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, roho2 at rcpattern.com writes:
      I quit flying FAI because of the snap on the 45 degree up line. I'm just not 
      going to change planes to make them maneuver specific. The last thing we 
      need is a positive or negative snap up. I think it's fine just as it is. 
      Just work on it a bit and I suspect it will be fine.

      Ed

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Gene Maurice" <gene.maurice at comcast.net>
      To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
      Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:54 AM
      Subject: RE: Warning to Masters Pilots


      > How about a Humpty Bump, Pull, Full Roll Down, Push, 1 Pos. or Neg. Snap 
      > Up.
      >
      >
      > Gene Maurice
      > gene.maurice at comcast.net
      > Plano, TX
      > NSRCA 877
      > AMA 3408
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] 
      > On
      > Behalf Of Joe Lachowski
      > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:17 AM
      > To: discussion at nsrca.org
      > Subject: Re: Warning to Masters Pilots
      >
      > Electrics. Don't forget the gearbox?<g>
      >
      >  So who's going to submit an emergency proposal and a replacement manuever
      > to go with it?
      >
      >>From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com
      >>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
      >>To: discussion at nsrca.org
      >>Subject: Re: Warning to Masters Pilots
      >>Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:07:27 EST
      >>
      >>
      >>In a message dated 11/15/2004 9:42:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
      >>gene.maurice at comcast.net writes:
      >>
      >>execute  the snap, looks good, deeply stalled, comes around and for a
      >>change
      >>wing  are level, hit the power, MOTORS DEAD, so is your plane!!!!!!  No
      >>air
      >>speed, no energy left, no power, not enough altitude, and BTW you're  over
      >>a
      >>forest, a lake, a primordial swamp, or some other aircraft eating
      >>terrain!!!
      >>
      >>
      >>THIS MANEUVER IS GOING TO CLAIM AIRPLANES!!!
      >>
      >>Gene  Maurice
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>ELECTRICS ANYONE???
      >>
      >>MATTK

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