[SPAM] RE: Back to a two-year rules cycle and judging certification

[Ron Van Putte]

On May 12, 2004, at 11:25 AM, <tony at radiosouthrc.com> wrote:

> Dean:
>
> Thanks, good stuff...

Yeah, he's come a long way from that young whippersnapper I met at the 
F3A Team Selection Finals at Rough River so many years ago.  As I 
remember, he was flying a modified Bill Cunningham airplane I named "Up 
Chuck", since it was so ugly.  <VBG>

Ron Van Putte

> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Dean Pappas
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:05 AM
> Subject: [SPAM] RE: Back to a two-year rules cycle and judging 
> certification
>
> Hi Tony and Bob,
> Let me add something here ... a judging training philosophical; issue.
> A judging training session is often thought of as a chance for a group 
> of people to go through the maneuver descriptions and downgrades 
> together. That's a good thing to do, but if that's the whole point of 
> a training seminar, then we waste everyone's travel time, and you know 
> how far that can be, sometimes. We can all read the maneuver 
> descriptions and the judges' guide at home, even though we can always 
> use a get-together as an pleasant excuse to do our studying homework.
>  
> The valuable opportunity at a judging seminar is to more figure out 
> how to judge, than what to judge. How to learn to look for the 
> mythical spin/snap break; or how to come up with a system that works 
> for you to count-up the downgrades so that you don't loose track and 
> start scoring by impression; how to put a value on just how much a 
> certain amount of out-of-roundness on a loop is worth; and then the 
> list of downgrades makes sense.
>  
> So my take on this is to teach as little of the WHAT as I can get away 
> with, tell people that they are never really done reading the rule 
> book, and then spend as much time talking about HOW to judge as time 
> will allow. The biggest help here has always been the handful of good 
> experienced judges in the crowd, who are available to share their 
> ideas and techniques with the neophytes. Different things work for 
> different people: some count on their fingers, others in their heads, 
> and yet others keep a running description of boo-boos and then total 
> up. If you don't have a system that works for you, then the best thing 
> a seminar can give you is things to try.
>  
> Once you know HOW, WHAT is just a matter of rerading the new rule 
> book, and finding out what the intent was on unclear maneuver 
> descriptions (not like there are any of those!) as has been happening 
> on this forum. At any one seminar, it is unlikely that someone can 
> give you a definitive clarification unless the answer has already 
> descendeed from the appropriate rules body.
>  
> Just my two cents,
>     Dean
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: tony at radiosouthrc.com [mailto:tony at radiosouthrc.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:29 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Back to a two-year rules cycle and judging certification
>
>
> Bob:
> Good question!  Actually, we can do both at the same time as usually 
> it is just a schedule change in F3A.  If something changes that we 
> need to address specifically, then we will do so in that even-numbered 
> year...
>  
> Tony Stillman
> Radio South
> 3702 N. Pace Blvd.
> Pensacola, FL 32505
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> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Bob Kane
> To: nsrca
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:10 AM
> Subject: Back to a two-year rules cycle and judging certification
>
> Steve Maxwell asked this question a couple of weeks ago and I did not 
> see any response. The AMA cycle will be two years, beginning in odd 
> numbered years. The FAI cycle is also two years, but starting on even 
> numbered years.  How are we going to handle judging certification?
>
>
> Bob Kane
> getterflash at yahoo.com
>
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