Rules Proposals Final Vote

[Del Rykert]

MessageVery True & I still see us all as friends.
     del
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  From: cameron 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 8:44 AM
  Subject: RE: Rules Proposals Final Vote


  And I bet you wouldn't want your friends to go thru it either! 
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    From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Del Rykert
    Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 8:35 AM
    To: discussion at nsrca.org
    Subject: Re: Rules Proposals Final Vote


    Isn't it amazing how those who have been burned either literally or figuratively have strong opinions. I also have been hit with a model and it carried me 15 feet and slide another 15 feet. It was 60 powered. No picnic and one I care not to repeat. 

                             del 
                   NSRCA - 473
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jerry Stebbins 
      To: discussion at nsrca.org 
      Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:01 AM
      Subject: Re: Rules Proposals Final Vote


      John's comments are interesting, but not totally correct. 
      I would assume that the info on the survey was "districtable" and therefore each rep could/should have found out how his membership voted. If not, one could assume a % by allocation and be close. In any case you would not expect the proposer to vote against his own proposal, or those of his compatriots. Also I would generally not expect the board members to vote against the Chairman's proposal, supported by NSRCA execs. or on their poposals, unless they had some very strong opposition expressed to them.
      I expressed my comments verbally to John several times at contests, both factual rebuttals of his "rationale", and the legal implications of someone getting hit under a new rule that reduced the criteria, and need for takeoff "control". My mistake was to delete the long,and specific, comments I wrote and then deleted, after deciding they had all been previously expressed. I should have, at least , documented them for the record.
        I have been hit, and had to duck several times, while judging, over the past 11 years, and did not like it. Demonstration of control of the plane on the ground, and in the air is a basic Safety precept, and I think this sends the wrong message to the pilots. One takeoff this year at Pensacola was at right angles to the runway--luckily out, but the judges sure flinched!!!!!!!
      No reason to duck, jus don"t judge!!!!!!
      Jerry----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Lance Van Nostrand 
        To: discussion at nsrca.org 
        Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:12 AM
        Subject: Re: Rules Proposals Final Vote


        Ron,
        John's post is interesting, and provides insight into his perspective.  My response is:
        1. We recognize that the AMA CB is independent and should vote in a way that represents their district.  It is part of the CB member's job to understand the sentiment of his district.  It's not the members responsibility to find him.  Without this input, he is voting personally from an appointed position (not democratic).

        2. It is totally reasonable that he might prefer non-judged TO/L.  In fact 17% of the survey respondents agree with that position.  However, with "nada" input from his district, how can he conclude that an overwhelmingly unpopular opinion is the will of his constituents?

        --Lance 
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