Artistic Aerobatics suggestions

[Lance Van Nostrand]

AND as Wayne exits the manuver it appears some words are emanating from his
caller. No...they are angry words.  They are fighting. He's saying something
I just can't make out but can read his lips. Oh my. is there a downgrade for
that?
--Lance

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Galligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Artistic Aerobatics suggestions


> AND over on the knoll sets a pretentious looking young man awaiting his
turn
> at the flight line.  A chance at his 10 minutes of stick boggling
> aerodazzling.  DD some call him.... others wither at the thought of having
> to follow as they know what kind of a treat they are in for.
>
> AND a hush comes over the crowd..............
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Dolzine" <Dave.Dolzine at dalsemi.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 8:03 AM
> Subject: RE: Artistic Aerobatics suggestions
>
>
> > I could see it now....
> >
> > "Van Nostrand, a Cinderella story out of Dallas Texas, only needs one
more
> > 4-point to secure his victory.... OHHH NO, an over rotation. He not
going
> to
> > be happy with that one."
> >
> > -DD
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Lance Van Nostrand
> > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:52 AM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: Artistic Aerobatics suggestions
> >
> >
> > If it wasn't for the announcers building up each golf shot and
describing
> > what's at stake and recognizing beauty or exaggerating the problems of
> > hitting a ball inthe rough, watching golf would be far more boring.
> >    When you are at a golf event as spectator, you can stand in one place
> and
> > watch each player approach you and you can observe their travails.
> >    I think we need in pattern to connect to spectators more.  Not to
> ignore
> > their presence.  We could also use some commentary on what is happening
so
> > the observer can develop "favorites" and root for something.
> >    In scale and large jet events, there is a line up of planes and
pilots
> > and the public can examine them and talk to the pilots.  We could have a
> > corner where we place an announcer and some observation seats where one
of
> > us describes what is going on, what place the current flier is in, what
> > mistakes are seen, etc.  Just like golf - to make it interesting to
watch.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> > --Lance
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Peter Pennisi" <pentagon.systems at bigpond.com>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:27 PM
> > Subject: RE: Artistic Aerobatics
> >
> >
> >
> > Look at the following Golf has. I enjoy my game of golf occasionally but
I
> > can't think of anything more boring to watch unless I am playing.
Pattern
> is
> > the same, unless you're involved in some capacity it is boring to watch.
> Why
> > is golf so popular? - not sure, maybe because it is easy to understand
and
> > the top players in the world have become household names, draws a lot of
> > corporate interest etc.
> >
> > Pattern will never reach those heights. As long as you enjoy the hobby
for
> > yourself that is the main thing. If only we could draw an international
> > celebrity into flying pattern the public may start to take a little
> > interest.
> >
> > Pattern to the uninitiated is far too complex to understand. It is too
> > precise and specialised to become a public domain interest. How will a
> > spectator ever understand why Joe Bloggs only received a 4 instead of a
6
> > for a 4 point roll?
> >
> > AAA at a pattern comp would be fun. The only reason why I would do it is
> for
> > me. If the general public find it interesting to watch - that would be
an
> > added bonus.
> >
> > PP
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of Rcmaster199 at aol.com
> > Sent: Saturday, 24 January 2004 9:07 AM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: Artistic Aerobatics
> >
> > Eric,
> > Unless we are judging and have to watch the flights (or at least should
> > watch the flights), we often don't look at the other pattern flying
much.
> At
> > least that's been my experience in nearly twenty five years of
competitive
> > pattern flying.
> >
> > It seems about the only time we carefully observe or even scrutinize a
> > flight when we are NOT sitting in the JC, is when the fellow just above
us
> > in the standings is flying or when a name flier is flying. But even
then,
> we
> > seldom actually observe a complete flight
> >
> > Is Pattern boring to watch ? Yeah, probably, to the uninitiated observer
> it
> > probably is. If anyone of the Pattern people performed a perfect Cuban
> say,
> > the observer could just as soon yawn. I doubt the observer would fall
> asleep
> > if a plane was coming down to touch the rudder under full control,
making
> > all that racket, at the far edge of the runway. Lets be brutally blunt
> about
> > danger appealing to many.
> >
> > Are "they" having more fun? Sometimes I think they do, especially when
we
> > are having a problem with that alky burning, glow plug blowing, bearing
> > chewing cantakerous bunch of metal parts. We get upset when our trim
> doesn't
> > hold. They just fly or hover or whatever. We get right down anal about
> noise
> > reduction and distance out and weight and 2x2 meters and "they" don't!!!
> >
> > I did the IMAC thing for a short while but came back. The plane flew
well
> > enough even though it was a 10 lb overweight ARF(kinda reminded me of me
> > actually). It was just too damned big and heavy and a real pain to haul
> > around. Not my idea of "FUN"
> >
> > BUT, I still love Pattern and all its self induced variables. That's my
> > bottom line. It's irrational to feel this way but I just do. I guess it
> > appeals to my desire for geometric precision and to the discipline it
> takes
> > to strive for perfection.
> >
> > IMHO
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Matt K
> >
> >
> > Subj:Artistic Aerobatics
> > Date:1/23/2004 10:07:44 AM Eastern Standard Time
> > From:Eric.Henderson at gartner.com
> > Reply-to:discussion at nsrca.org
> > To:discussion at nsrca.org
> > Sent from the Internet
> >
> >
> >
> > As some of you may know I ran an FAI-FG1 event a couple of years ago at
> the
> > Nat's after the finals. Quique, Troy and Chad Northeast put on a really
> > great show for us while we waited for the Masters and FAI results.
> >
> > I have not heard much about this event type since then. I was wondering
if
> > the FAI adopted it or not.
> >
> > Flying a pattern type plane to music is very attractive. It is one of
the
> > few times where the plane does not drown-out the music! More correctly
> said,
> > the planes have to comply with size weight and sound FAI regulations.
They
> > do not actually have to be what we fly in a pattern contest. Some guys
use
> > the same planes and swap-in 3-D wings and stabs. They often change their
> > props.
> >
> > It is, of course, the rest-of-the-world's version of IMAC freestyle.
> >
> > I have written, not without a shot or two across my bows, that the
> > delineator between precision aerobatics and scale aerobatics is that
> pattern
> > is based on practicing the routine, a lot!
> > I see IMAC pilots practicing tailslides and Harriers and torque rolls,
but
> > rarely the routines they fly. In particular, wannabe IMAC pilots fly the
> > hover stuff for most of their flights. Once in a while I "push my luck"
> and
> > I ask them why they practice most, the thing that they will do least, in
a
> > contest. (Maybe once in a freestyle routine at the end of an event).
> >
> > The answer always is, "Because I want to get better at it and it is
fun".
> > Are they having more fun than us? I know that watching a loud plane
hover
> > over the runway is fun for a while but it gets old pretty quick and even
> > becomes annoying. A bit like when we played our 45's on repeat. We coul
> > listen to the same song, that we had just purchased, but our allegedly
> > tone-deaf fathers were soon motivated to become "discus" throwers!!!!
> >
> > The question is still out there however, "Are we boring?" and "Do we,
> > (pattern pilots), need be more watchable"???
> >
> > Regards, it is still winter - Eric.
> >
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