Artistic Aerobatics

Troy Newman troy_newman at msn.com
Fri Jan 23 09:40:21 AKST 2004


Eric,

I would love to fly some more Artistic Aerobatics stuff in competition. I actually have a dedicated AA model now. I'm not the torque roll around my ankles kind of guy but I can do some cool stuff.


I heard a comment about the last TOC....Quique's freestyle was in my opinion the absolute best I have seen. The Comment was Quique gave us Swan Lake, but the crowd wanted monster trucks.

This is where I see the differences in the big models and Pattern style models. After being in South for a while I think I have a little Red Neck in me now and I can use a little monster truck action once in a while...but I view the technology and the pattern type models as the Indy Car or the F-1 setups.


Everybody seems to think that you need to do 3D to fly Artistic stuff. You don't need to as Chad and I tried to show.

I'm up for some AA anytime and anyplace. 

Troy
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Henderson,Eric 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:22 AM
  Subject: RE: Artistic Aerobatics


  Bill,
          It's not fair to say the vote was ignored.The vote occurred just before the change-cycle for the AMA closed. there was absolutely no way to propose complete schedule and ascending schedule changes in the time available.

  The lead time to make new schedules took over a year the last time we did them. A sub-committee, split into two teams, and did approx.. four schedules for each class. They were tested and tested, and then voted on at sub-committee level. the winners were narrowed down and voted on at the NSRCA board level and finally sent out in the NSRCA survey as structured groups of schedule options for the NSRCA membership to vote on. ( We all got the same stipend for all of the work!)

  The next window when the voted-on-change-all-schedules-change can be proposed to the AMA is in two years time. The Annex proposal, if it passes, should help us a lot in this process. But if we want to design what we fly, it almost behooves us to start designing now. Tony understand this stuff. He had the vision and was the one that commissioned the original sub-committees long before I got the job of finishing them.

  Regards,

  Eric.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
  Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 1:25 PM
  To: discussion at nsrca.org
  Subject: Re: Artistic Aerobatics


  Interesting, that this subject should come up.
  I feel that a big factor,  would be the very thing that is under our noses.  (admittedly, some few will object to the idea)
  Change the flight sequences at least every 3 years, as the questionnaire said.  Said questionnaire was ignored in this particular, in the last rules cycle for all but (significantly) Masters.  And, of course, FAI.
  It would help in the boredom category.  IMHO, it would help much more than looking at pattern airplanes flop all over the sky.  But then, who am I?  I haven't even done a great job of what we're flying now.<G>
  In any event, Eric, I sure appreciate that you're so active in the idea dept.

  Bill Glaze
  NSRCA 2388
  AMA 2221
  IMAC 1624
  N7WWS

  Henderson,Eric wrote:

    As some of you may know I ran an FAI-FG1 event a couple of years ago at the Nat's after the finals. Quique, Troy and Chad Northeast put on a really great show for us while we waited for the Masters and FAI results.

    I have not heard much about this event type since then. I was wondering if the FAI adopted it or not.

    Flying a pattern type plane to music is very attractive. It is one of the few times where the plane does not drown-out the music! More correctly said, the planes have to comply with size weight and sound FAI regulations. They do not actually have to be what we fly in a pattern contest. Some guys use the same planes and swap-in 3-D wings and stabs. They often change their props.

    It is, of course, the rest-of-the-world's version of IMAC freestyle.

    I have written, not without a shot or two across my bows, that the delineator between precision aerobatics and scale aerobatics is that pattern is based on practicing the routine, a lot! 
    I see IMAC pilots practicing tailslides and Harriers and torque rolls, but rarely the routines they fly. In particular, wannabe IMAC pilots fly the hover stuff for most of their flights. Once in a while I "push my luck" and I ask them why they practice most, the thing that they will do least, in a contest. (Maybe once in a freestyle routine at the end of an event). 

    The answer always is, "Because I want to get better at it and it is fun".  Are they having more fun than us? I know that watching a loud plane hover over the runway is fun for a while but it gets old pretty quick and even becomes annoying. A bit like when we played our 45's on repeat. We coul listen to the same song, that we had just purchased, but our allegedly tone-deaf fathers were soon motivated to become "discus" throwers!!!!

    The question is still out there however, "Are we boring?" and "Do we, (pattern pilots), need be more watchable"???

    Regards, it is still winter - Eric.
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