Speaking of lessons learned (was are you looking for somethin g)

Keith Hoard khoard at midsouth.rr.com
Mon Jan 19 11:13:25 AKST 2004


That can also go the other way. . .

I saw a guy drop his transmitter and the battery popped out. . . . oops!!


Keith L. Hoard
Cordova, TN
khoard at midsouth.rr.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Hughes" <jhughes at hsonline.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of lessons learned (was are you looking for somethin
g)


>
> Or no neck strap and fly by thumb like I do!
>
>
> > Or staying away from electronic trims...
> >
> >     All my radios have been mechanical and will stay that way if I
> have my
> > way..
> >
> >                   del
> >                NSRCA - 473
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "White, Chris" <chris at ssd.fsi.com>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:25 PM
> > Subject: RE: Speaking of lessons learned (was are you looking for
> somethin
> > g)
> >
> >
> > > Hi Keith,
> > > Funny you should write that....I had the very same thing happen a
> few
> > months
> > > ago, but fortunately it was throttle trim.....BEEP beep beep beep
> beep....
> > > what the heck? (Futaba 8U) I thought I was losing transmitter
> > voltage!!!!and
> > > got it on the ground fast.  After landing I realized the strap snap
> > > problem....now my preflight includes a quick check of my strap.
> A strong
> > > case for trays:)
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > NSRCS 3601
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Keith Black
> > > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:08 PM
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > Subject: Re: Speaking of lessons learned (was are you looking for
> > > something)
> > >
> > >
> > > Speaking of lessons learned!
> > >
> > > Saturday I went flying in a brief window of good weather. I was
> anxious to
> > > go not only because I'm always anxious to go but I was also
> anxious to try
> > > out my new 10X.
> > >
> > > I'd spent a lot of time making 100% sure that everything on the 10X
> > behaved
> > > exactly as my old 8103. As the plane reaches lift-off speed I
> gently
> > pulled
> > > back on the elevator and the plane pulled up hard going straight
> up. I
> > > thought to myself "that wasn't very smooth". I apply a slight bit
> of down
> > to
> > > level it out but still it's going straight up, and beginning loop
> > backwards.
> > > Now I push a lot of down to keep it from coming over. I'm
> thinking "I
> > can't
> > > believe I missed the setup that bad, there's no way... fix the
> trim and
> > see
> > > what's wrong on the ground". I feed in down trim, barley any
> effect, now I
> > > feed in a lot of down and finally get it leveled out, then
> suddenly vroom
> > > straight up again. I think "OH NO, CHECK THE ANTENNA", but it's
> up. Shove
> > in
> > > down, get it level, hit trims more, plane levels then surges up
> again.
> > Back
> > > off the throttle, hold down, plane levels but is so slow it's
> mushy and I
> > > think maybe the ailerons are also gone. Wait, no it's turning now.
> Level
> > the
> > > elevator trim again. Then I hear that beep, beep, beep, beeeep of
> the
> > trims
> > > moving BY THEMSELVES! "Oh NO the radio's flaking out! Did I spill
> water or
> > > my cleaner on it? It wasn't having any problems before!"  Now the
> plane is
> > > doing a wild porpoise routine all around. I think to myself that
> there's
> > no
> > > way this things getting on the ground without being destroyed. I
> call for
> > > help, no pattern fliers there, mainly newbies, finally one
> seasoned pilot
> > > comes to my side. I tell him the radios got problems, the trims
> are going
> > > nuts. He encourages me to just get it down the best I can. I make
> a long
> > > slow porpoising circle to line up for landing. He says, " the
> field's wet
> > > and soft just set it down out there and maybe it won't get damaged
> too
> > bad."
> > > I pull up the retracts, try to level it out, it's coming at the
> runway at
> > a
> > > 45 deg angle, I've got to get it down before it gets too close!
> Kill the
> > > engine, forget the trims now just hold down, it's pretty
> sensitive, just
> > > easing off the elevator slightly makes it porpoise up again. It's
> level
> > now,
> > > gentle, gentle...  I can't believe it, it's on the ground smooth
> as silk!
> > >
> > > Now I look down at the radio and see what the problem is! The ring
> that's
> > on
> > > the end of my neck strap was caught behind the elevator trim. The
> weight
> > > from the radio on the strap was pulling the trim back to full up
> trim!
> > With
> > > the trim precision set to 4 steps per click full up trim was a lot
> of
> > trim.
> > >
> > > I can't believe how close I was to loosing my plane over something
> so
> > > stupid! I've used that same strap with my 8103 for the last two
> and a half
> > > years and that's never happened, but on the 10X the trims are just
> enough
> > > closer and/or higher to allow the ring on the end to get wedged
> between
> > the
> > > trim and strap connector.
> > >
> > > I should point out that I was not using the strap that comes with
> the 10X,
> > > the one I was using is more comfortable, but from now on I'll opt
> for
> > > control over comfort. :-D
> > >
> > > Keith Black
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "D Suding" <junk at velocitus.net>
> > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 12:11 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Dennis Suding, are you looking for something?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Okay, I left my wings to my Temptation at the field one night
> last week.
> > > > My wife is 9 months pregnant and my mind isn't with my wings.
> Thankfully
> > > > Tony Quist recognized them and took them to the nearest hobby
> shop
> > > > (Franks)
> > > >
> > > > Let this be a lesson, kids: Don't forget your wings!  It's hard
> to fly
> > > > without them.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again Tony!!!
> > > >
> > > > -D
> > > >
> > > > > Dennis email me privately.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > >
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