Simple wing retention

Sun Jan 18 05:44:27 AKST 2004

So TRUE and hate to count the times I've seen pilots take off with no
ailerons. Course this is over 35 years.

    del
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Young" <b4598070 at yahoo.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Simple wing retention

> My trick for memory loss, I never hook up the aileron
> servos until the wing is secured. Has saved me a
> couple of times, but of course you have to remember to
> do a preflight and wiggle the surfaces....
>
>
> --- Terry Terrenoire <amad2terry at juno.com> wrote:
> > When I had a plane with retracts and a plug in wing,
> > I made it a point to
> > never extend the gear until the retainers were in
> > place.  With today's
> > fixed gear, I have gone to a one piece wing. Hard to
> > forget the four
> > bolts in the bottom of the wing before attaching the
> > belly pan!
> >
> > Terry T.
> >
> > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 16:27:59 -0600 "Wayne Galligan"
> > <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com> writes:
> > > Don't tell Dave that...  he will get a real
> > complex and then think I
> > > am
> > > threatening him by moving into his class.  heh!
> > heh!
> > >
> > > I need to rename this Aries the "Phoenix."
> > >
> > > WG
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Keith Black" <tkeithb at comcast.net>
> > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 4:20 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Simple wing retention
> > >
> > >
> > > > Wayne, sounds like it must be Dolzine's fault!
> > > >
> > > > Since you're flying advanced this year, I'm not
> > sure the plane
> > > gods will
> > > be
> > > > so understanding with the reverse snaps.
> > > >
> > > > Keith Black
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Dave Dolzine" <Dave.Dolzine at dalsemi.com>
> > > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 3:49 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: Simple wing retention
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Wayne, it must be all that good livin' you are
> > doing.  I believe
> > > I have
> > > > been
> > > > > with you at least 3 of the 4 time and witness
> > this.  The first
> > > one was
> > > > "man,
> > > > > I just got away with one", the second was, "I
> > can't believe I
> > > did this
> > > > > again", the third was "you ain't going to
> > believe this", after
> > > the
> > > fourth
> > > > > time I concluded that the plane gods still
> > believe that Aries is
> > > dead
> > > and
> > > > > fail to recognize that you brought it back to
> > life after Hot
> > > Springs the
> > > > > year before (when they were not as merciful).
> > > > >
> > > > > -DD
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > > > > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf
> > Of Wayne Galligan
> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 3:09 PM
> > > > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Simple wing retention
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This thread stirs me....   This is a hard one
> > to admit but last
> > > year
> > > alone
> > > > I
> > > > > forgot to put the Jesus bolt in my Aries 4
> > times and it survived
> > > (4 free
> > > > > airplanes in a year has got to be a record).
> > Thank goodness I
> > > wasn't
> > > > doing
> > > > > a gazillion snaps.  My newest ship is done
> > exactly as Eric
> > > described but
> > > > > with one extra.  I put a red triangle shaped
> > warning sticker
> > > over the
> > > > > J-bolt.  I talk to no-one while I setup my
> > plane now.
> > > > >
> > > > > WG
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: "Henderson,Eric"
> > <Eric.Henderson at gartner.com>
> > > > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:30 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Simple wing retention
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I copied Chip's method of one 4-40 on the top
> > and one on the
> > > bottom. You
> > > > > leave the bottom one in all of the time. With
> > fixed gear you
> > > almost
> > > always
> > > > > put the wings on with the plane sitting on the
> > ground. In the
> > > event of
> > > an
> > > > > "inverted" wing removal you have the option to
> > remove the lower
> > > bolt
> > > > > instead.
> > > > >
> > > > > In bigger planes, and also seen on a Pappas
> > creation, I use 1/4
> > > x 20
> > > nylon
> > > > > screws into the wing tube.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lamar Blair and Jerry Stebbins sell a very
> > nice nylon insert
> > > that grabs
> > > > the
> > > > > 4-40 very well indeed. A very neat homemade
> > option is to use
> > > plastic
> > > water
> > > > > pipe. One that has too big a diameter. What
> > you do is cut off a
> > > 1/2"
> > > wide
> > > > > piece. Then cut out enough of the "ring" so
> > that it can be
> > > compressed
> > > and
> > > > > pushed into the wing tube. A touch of CA and
> > you have a section
> > > that can
> > > > be
> > > > > threaded and will "grab" your $4000 screw.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > > > > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf
> > Of Dean Pappas
> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:50 AM
> > > > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > > Subject: RE: Simple wing hold down
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yo, Anthony ...
> > > > > That idea makes so much sense, that it hurts!
> > > > > As the old addage goes, "If you can't hide it,
> > scream it".
> > > > > Put some sort of trim around it: make it look
> > like a gas-cap,
> > > > > after all, it's in about the right spot.
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Dean P.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Anthony Romano
> > [mailto:anthonyr105 at hotmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:28 AM
> > > > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > > Subject: Simple wing hold down
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The last four planes have all relied on the
> > $4000 bolt. The
> > > latest has a
> > > > > great innovation. The bolts are on the top of
> > the wing. I always
> > > > complained
> > > > > it is aesthetically unpleasing but pretty
> > simple. Leave the tube
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
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