Simple wing retention

[Wayne Galligan]

Don't tell Dave that...  he will get a real complex and then think I am
threatening him by moving into his class.  heh! heh!

I need to rename this Aries the "Phoenix."

WG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Black" <tkeithb at comcast.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Simple wing retention


> Wayne, sounds like it must be Dolzine's fault!
>
> Since you're flying advanced this year, I'm not sure the plane gods will
be
> so understanding with the reverse snaps.
>
> Keith Black
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Dolzine" <Dave.Dolzine at dalsemi.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 3:49 PM
> Subject: RE: Simple wing retention
>
>
> > Wayne, it must be all that good livin' you are doing.  I believe I have
> been
> > with you at least 3 of the 4 time and witness this.  The first one was
> "man,
> > I just got away with one", the second was, "I can't believe I did this
> > again", the third was "you ain't going to believe this", after the
fourth
> > time I concluded that the plane gods still believe that Aries is dead
and
> > fail to recognize that you brought it back to life after Hot Springs the
> > year before (when they were not as merciful).
> >
> > -DD
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Wayne Galligan
> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 3:09 PM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: Simple wing retention
> >
> >
> > This thread stirs me....   This is a hard one to admit but last year
alone
> I
> > forgot to put the Jesus bolt in my Aries 4 times and it survived (4 free
> > airplanes in a year has got to be a record).  Thank goodness I wasn't
> doing
> > a gazillion snaps.  My newest ship is done exactly as Eric described but
> > with one extra.  I put a red triangle shaped warning sticker over the
> > J-bolt.  I talk to no-one while I setup my plane now.
> >
> > WG
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Henderson,Eric" <Eric.Henderson at gartner.com>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:30 AM
> > Subject: RE: Simple wing retention
> >
> >
> > I copied Chip's method of one 4-40 on the top and one on the bottom. You
> > leave the bottom one in all of the time. With fixed gear you almost
always
> > put the wings on with the plane sitting on the ground. In the event of
an
> > "inverted" wing removal you have the option to remove the lower bolt
> > instead.
> >
> > In bigger planes, and also seen on a Pappas creation, I use 1/4 x 20
nylon
> > screws into the wing tube.
> >
> > Lamar Blair and Jerry Stebbins sell a very nice nylon insert that grabs
> the
> > 4-40 very well indeed. A very neat homemade option is to use plastic
water
> > pipe. One that has too big a diameter. What you do is cut off a 1/2"
wide
> > piece. Then cut out enough of the "ring" so that it can be compressed
and
> > pushed into the wing tube. A touch of CA and you have a section that can
> be
> > threaded and will "grab" your $4000 screw.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Eric.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Dean Pappas
> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:50 AM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: RE: Simple wing hold down
> >
> >
> > Yo, Anthony ...
> > That idea makes so much sense, that it hurts!
> > As the old addage goes, "If you can't hide it, scream it".
> > Put some sort of trim around it: make it look like a gas-cap,
> > after all, it's in about the right spot.
> > Regards,
> > Dean P.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anthony Romano [mailto:anthonyr105 at hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:28 AM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Simple wing hold down
> >
> >
> > The last four planes have all relied on the $4000 bolt. The latest has a
> > great innovation. The bolts are on the top of the wing. I always
> complained
> > it is aesthetically unpleasing but pretty simple. Leave the tube in one
> > panel and the plane comes out of the car to have the wings installed
> > immediately. Plane gets carried in one piece to pits to be fuelled. One
> bolt
> > and I am ready to go fly. If I get nervous and need to check it is right
> > there in plain sight. Very quick when it rains too!
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> >
> > >From: Rodney Tanner <rodney19821982 at yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > >To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > >Subject: Re: Wing hold down - Failsafes
> > >Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:13:54 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >I wondered when someone would mention those old friends. . . .
> > >I  have used good ol hooks and rubber bands on my last three pattern
> planes
> > >and for the Tem-Poon (Typhoon fuz, Temptation wings and stab) that will
> be
> > >ready in a few weeks. Dennis Hunt put me onto them, with the Extra and
> > >Viper projects he did. As Bill says, its simple and idiot proof (till
> now)
> > >and does´nt create any unwanted stress points.  Some people stay away
> from
> > >them because the rubber bands cross in front of the wing tube, where
the
> > >tank sits. Sooooo put them under the tank then!
> > >Rodney
> > >NSRCA # 2906
> > >
> > >Sneedb at aol.com wrote:
> > >I've been using the old hooks and rubber bands method to hold the wings
> on
> > >for years.  When I remove the bands from the hooks I immediately wrap
the
> > >bands around the prop and spinner and leave them there.  When you go
out
> > >for your next flying sesson you're not going to start the engine with
> > >rubber bands wrapped around your prop and spinner.  Not fool proof but
> > >pretty close    Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
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