Simple wing retention

[Keith Black]

Maybe you can do something like the rubber band on the prop trick where you
put the J-Bolt somewhere where you can't fly until it's placed in the wing.
Perhaps something like make yourself a prop cover that holds the bolt or has
a big note saying "never remove until wing bolt is inserted". You could also
connect something to your power switch. If that doesn't work for you just
jam the wing bolt into the carb, that will prevent flying with no wing bolt
:-D .

Hey I know all about forgetfulness, that's why I have my fuel hose rule. I
sometimes put my wedding ring on the opposite hand to remind myself to do
something (like tying a string on your finger). Yesterday I forgot what I
wanted to remind myself and spent the entire day with the ring bugging me on
my right hand but could never remember why it was there. I still don't know
:-S

Keith

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Galligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: Simple wing retention


> This thread stirs me....   This is a hard one to admit but last year alone
I
> forgot to put the Jesus bolt in my Aries 4 times and it survived (4 free
> airplanes in a year has got to be a record).  Thank goodness I wasn't
doing
> a gazillion snaps.  My newest ship is done exactly as Eric described but
> with one extra.  I put a red triangle shaped warning sticker over the
> J-bolt.  I talk to no-one while I setup my plane now.
>
> WG
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Henderson,Eric" <Eric.Henderson at gartner.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:30 AM
> Subject: RE: Simple wing retention
>
>
> I copied Chip's method of one 4-40 on the top and one on the bottom. You
> leave the bottom one in all of the time. With fixed gear you almost always
> put the wings on with the plane sitting on the ground. In the event of an
> "inverted" wing removal you have the option to remove the lower bolt
> instead.
>
> In bigger planes, and also seen on a Pappas creation, I use 1/4 x 20 nylon
> screws into the wing tube.
>
> Lamar Blair and Jerry Stebbins sell a very nice nylon insert that grabs
the
> 4-40 very well indeed. A very neat homemade option is to use plastic water
> pipe. One that has too big a diameter. What you do is cut off a 1/2" wide
> piece. Then cut out enough of the "ring" so that it can be compressed and
> pushed into the wing tube. A touch of CA and you have a section that can
be
> threaded and will "grab" your $4000 screw.
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Dean Pappas
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:50 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: RE: Simple wing hold down
>
>
> Yo, Anthony ...
> That idea makes so much sense, that it hurts!
> As the old addage goes, "If you can't hide it, scream it".
> Put some sort of trim around it: make it look like a gas-cap,
> after all, it's in about the right spot.
> Regards,
> Dean P.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Romano [mailto:anthonyr105 at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:28 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Simple wing hold down
>
>
> The last four planes have all relied on the $4000 bolt. The latest has a
> great innovation. The bolts are on the top of the wing. I always
complained
> it is aesthetically unpleasing but pretty simple. Leave the tube in one
> panel and the plane comes out of the car to have the wings installed
> immediately. Plane gets carried in one piece to pits to be fuelled. One
bolt
> and I am ready to go fly. If I get nervous and need to check it is right
> there in plain sight. Very quick when it rains too!
>
> Anthony
>
>
> >From: Rodney Tanner <rodney19821982 at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >Subject: Re: Wing hold down - Failsafes
> >Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:13:54 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >I wondered when someone would mention those old friends. . . .
> >I  have used good ol hooks and rubber bands on my last three pattern
planes
> >and for the Tem-Poon (Typhoon fuz, Temptation wings and stab) that will
be
> >ready in a few weeks. Dennis Hunt put me onto them, with the Extra and
> >Viper projects he did. As Bill says, its simple and idiot proof (till
now)
> >and does´nt create any unwanted stress points.  Some people stay away
from
> >them because the rubber bands cross in front of the wing tube, where the
> >tank sits. Sooooo put them under the tank then!
> >Rodney
> >NSRCA # 2906
> >
> >Sneedb at aol.com wrote:
> >I've been using the old hooks and rubber bands method to hold the wings
on
> >for years.  When I remove the bands from the hooks I immediately wrap the
> >bands around the prop and spinner and leave them there.  When you go out
> >for your next flying sesson you're not going to start the engine with
> >rubber bands wrapped around your prop and spinner.  Not fool proof but
> >pretty close    Bill
> >
> >
> >
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