Pl Lazulite
Woodward James R Civ 412 TW/DRP
James.Woodward2 at edwards.af.mil
Thu Jan 8 06:50:20 AKST 2004
I ordered a PL Lazulite around last February. It arrived 4 months later
than originally stated. The freight company charged another $90 in
paperwork. The total was around $1800-$1900 for plane, shipping, and
freight. Shipping was near $500. The fuselage was damaged. My attempts to
get another were futile. After another gentleman went public on this list,
PL reversed their position and decided to send another fuselage to me. The
people who bring the kits into the US do us a HUGE favor. I will never
order direct again.
Jim W.
-----Original Message-----
From: adriancwong at earthlink.net [mailto:adriancwong at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:16 PM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: RE: Pl Lazulite
I ordered a Partner directly from PL at the beginning of December, it cost
me 1,054.00 euro (shipping extra). PL debited 50% on my credit card at 1.21
exchange rate, and will debit the other 50% in April. If the exchange rate
keeps going up and up, I might pay it off before taking delivery.
Import duty is relatively cheap. I paid around $40.00 for all the paper work
between the forwarder and the U S Custom when I took delivery of my Angel's
Shadow a year ago.
Adrian
-----Original Message-----
From: "Koenig, Tom" <Tom.Koenig at actewagl.com.au>
Sent: Jan 7, 2004 8:51 PM
To: "'discussion at nsrca.org'" <discussion at nsrca.org>
Subject: RE: Pl Lazulite
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<DIV><SPAN class=925173904-08012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>Jason.....don't you already have one or
more???</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=925173904-08012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=925173904-08012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>I was under the impression that you were doing the electric
version. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=925173904-08012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
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<DIV><SPAN class=925173904-08012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>Sorry I cant tell you the price US, but </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=925173904-08012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>I can tell
you
that each model has cost me close to 3 grand (Australian) each. The
airfreight was a fortune and I got hit big time by customs ( 10% tax) and
various other duties. You may not suffer the same fate in the US, so it may
work out cheaper than in my case.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=925173904-08012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=925173904-08012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>Tom</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=925173904-08012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jason
[mailto:jasonshulman at cox.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 8 January 2004
3:32
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion at nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Pl
Lazulite<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=340373104-08012004>What is
the
going price US for one?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=340373104-08012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=340373104-08012004>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=340373104-08012004>Jason</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Clay Schmidt<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 07, 2004
8:32
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion at nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Pl
Lazulite<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tom,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thank you for your reply. The design
looks good to me. Everything is easily accessible and it has a good
look. Now all we need is a few flying reports. Please keep me posted
about yours.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Clay</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Tom.Koenig at actewagl.com.au
href="mailto:Tom.Koenig at actewagl.com.au">Koenig, Tom</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion at nsrca.org
href="mailto:'discussion at nsrca.org'">'discussion at nsrca.org'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 05, 2004
5:03
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Pl Lazulite</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=610523422-05012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>Clay,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=610523422-05012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=610523422-05012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>I have one, but as yet still not built. I
don't really know what I can tell you about it.... I guess the best
piece
of advice I can give you is to go through an importer ( like Central
etc) unless you are quite confident that the whole importing process
will
not faze you. I had considerable difficulty importing the models to
Australia.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=610523422-05012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=610523422-05012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>Now assuming you actually get/got one...... the plane
looks like it will be a good performer. Speaking as a guy who designed
all
his own for many years, the Lazulite is not a ground breaking design
but rather an evolution ( which model isn't?) and seems to
utilize some design philosophies to which Wolfgang and Roland Matt
subscribe. I think the Lazulite will be a solid performer, just like
the
Smaragd......and it has a much better belly pan
idea! </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=610523422-05012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>Now that the US dollar is going south. I would imagine
that
the cost would increase. So if this is a factor, you need to balance
up
the gains you make in time saving of a kit vs scratch vs dollars. In
my
case I needed to save time...but I still need to justify the cost to
the family on a weekly basis!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=610523422-05012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=610523422-05012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>Kit wise, the glass work is exceptional. The sheeting
work
is good too, but what really lacks is good English in the instructions
and
with that perhaps more comprehensive instructions which include
measurements...but I may work on that if PL allows me to ( I need to
speak with them first).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=610523422-05012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=610523422-05012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>If you like the look of the model, and you have some
cash to
burn...give it a try, I'm sure it will be a great
plane.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=610523422-05012004><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=610523422-05012004>Tom</SPAN><SPAN
class=610523422-05012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Clay Schmidt
[mailto:clay1 at grapevine.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, 4 January 2004
5:48
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion at nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Pl
Lazulite<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was just curious to know if anyone
out
there has any experience with the PL Lazulite? Any info, comments,
or flying experiences would be most appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Clay Schmidt</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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