receiver antenna placement

[Brian Young]

Any carbon in the Hydeout? Thinking they were all
glass.

I was running elevator and rudder pull pull in a stick
built plane w/ antennae inside. No glitches. 

My problem was one of them carbon planes took a liking
to my poor little wood plane, only glitch I ever
had.......

--- Wayne Galligan <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com> wrote:
> I am using Futaba and Gray uses Airtronics.
> 
> Maybe its this government grade high purity c.f.
> stuff my plane is made of.
> 
> WG
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brian Young" <b4598070 at yahoo.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: receiver antenna placement
> 
> 
> > You guys Running JR or Futaba?
> > 
> > Maybe thats the answer.............
> > 
> > --- Wayne Galligan <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
> wrote:
> > > I too have an outty.  My last ship had wire
> > > pull/pull everything in a c.f. fuse and I had
> > > nothing but glitching when the antenna was close
> to
> > > the fuse.  Had to run the antenna out to the
> wing
> > > tip.  Next fuse same type airplane I used a MK
> > > pushrod and no problems. Perhaps the wire pull
> > > cables and c.f. combination where suspect.   Are
> > > there any E.E.'s out there that could explain
> this
> > > phenomenon?
> > > 
> > > Wayne G.
> > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >   From: Gray E Fowler 
> > >   To: discussion at nsrca.org 
> > >   Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 10:07 AM
> > >   Subject: Re: receiver antenna placement
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Vicente 
> > > 
> > >   I too run my antennas outside as my Aries is
> 100%
> > > carbon fiber.  I had in the past on a CF fuse
> > > experienced failsafe holds until I ran the
> antenna
> > > outside...Now the question is in my case and
> > > yours...at some time that fuse, that pushrod or
> > > those pull-pull cables are between you  and the
> > > antenna...why no failsafe here? 
> > > 
> > >   Also I have no trust in any Electrical
> Engineer,
> > > convinced that their expertise is nothing but
> smoke
> > > and mirrors designed to fool the mangement
> types,
> > > which is fairly easy to do. Why such an
> attitude?
> > > Because here at the Raytheon Antenna Department
> > > where I work , My EE's told me after running
> > > calculations that I would not have any
> interference
> > > problems- but I did. Regardless of all the
> missiles
> > > we make that have struck their intended targets,
> the
> > > EE's failed me in their most critical
> > > challenge....Can I run my RC antenna at 72 mHz
> > > inside my toy plane???? 
> > > 
> > >   I endure the scoffing at my "outty" antenna to
> > > enjoy a much stiffer plane.  I am of the opinion
> > > that an outty antenna is much more appealing
> than
> > > all those guys that have fuel tubing on the
> exterior
> > > of the plane! That is the true crime!  At least
> all
> > > my fuel tubing is hidden...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Gray Fowler
> > >   Principal Chemical Engineer
> > >   Composites Engineering 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >        vicenterc at comcast.net 
> > >         Sent by: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
> > >         02/24/2004 09:49 AM 
> > >         Please respond to discussion 
> > > 
> > >                
> > >                 To:        discussion at nsrca.org 
> > >                 cc:        "Del K. Rykert"
> > > <drykert at rochester.rr.com>,
> <discussion at nsrca.org> 
> > >                 Subject:        Re: receiver
> antenna
> > > placement 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   I guess that I am not a real pattern pilot.  I
> > > have to run the antennas outside.  I have a
> Hydeout
> > > and a Focus.  Both use steel wire for rudder and
> > > elevator.  The Focus has a carbon rod for the
> > > elevator.  In both planes and certain conditions
> > > (example: slow roll when the antenna gets behind
> the
> > > steel cables) the radio has been going safe-fail
> for
> > > slit second.  The only cure after sending radio
> and
> > > receiver for tuning was to run the antenna
> outside.
> > > 
> > >   After having this experience, I am not
> confident
> > > to run antennas inside my planes.  I know that
> there
> > > is a very high percentage of pattern pilots that
> run
> > > the antenna inside.  Probably I am doing
> something
> > > wrong in the installation and I haven't been
> able to
> > > figure it out.  
> > > 
> > >   Vicente Bortone
> > > 
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