Displacement during snaps - judging

tony at radiosouthrc.com tony at radiosouthrc.com
Wed Dec 29 15:14:21 AKST 2004


Randy:

Good points!  Flying too far out is a very, VERY common problem.  We, as 
judges, need to really downgrade when pilots get past 175 meters!


Tony Stillman
Radio South
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randy" <randy10926 at comcast.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: Displacement during snaps - judging


> Being the schmoe because you actually noticed an error in flight or of 
> informing other pilots that they are responsible for clearly demonstrating 
> the maneuver; seems to be the hardest part of judging to me.  I see a fair 
> amount of "defensive flying" at regional level contests.  By that I mean 
> flying in a way to make it hard to judge the manuevers instead of clearly 
> demonstating the manuever.  Sometimes it's flying too far out, sometimes 
> it pauses in point rolls that are so short you cannot tell where the pause 
> really was just that it happened (quick enough to hide a .5 or 1 pt 
> error). At least you can downgrade for flying to far out, if you can stand 
> the pressure for doing it.  And giving zeros for non-snap snap rolls is 
> included.
>
> Randy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dean Pappas" <d.pappas at kodeos.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 1:16 PM
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>
>
> What scares me is that the lone zero has often been right.
> Then we comparatively evaluate the judges, and the guy who was awake looks 
> like a schmoe.
>
> Dean Pappas
> Sr. Design Engineer
> Kodeos Communications
> 111 Corporate Blvd.
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> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Archie Stafford
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 1:09 PM
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> Subject: RE: Displacement during snaps ** del klipped for reposting **
>
>
> It is the pilots responsibility to demonstrate the maneuver, but it is 
> also
> the judges responsibility to know what to look for.  When several pilots 
> are
> scored the same way 9, 9, and 0, then obviously, either 2 of the judges or
> the one judge are looking for different things.  If it is a rarity and
> happens to one pilot then I will agree it is on the pilots shoulders, but 
> if
> repeatedly "qualified" judges are scoring this way, then there is 
> obviously
> a discrepancy in what the judges are looking for.
>
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