Excelleron ST'd

Ron Van Putte vanputte at cox.net
Mon Dec 20 12:03:15 AKST 2004


On Dec 20, 2004, at 2:50 PM, Ed Miller wrote:

> Hmm, Dean, will you be out in the snow and cold today flight testing  
> ??? VBG, OK it's cold as you know what here in Tn too !!!
>

Stay inside.  It's even cold down here in Florida.  I almost froze  
my.....er..... extremities off this morning.

Ron Van Putte

> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Dean Pappas
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 3:39 PM
> Subject: RE: Excelleron ST'd
>
> Funny you should mention that, Randy ...
>  
> I am in the process of flight trimming the Excelleron for a review  
> in Model Aviation. The whole goal of the review is to put together a  
> cost-effective and non-intimidating package, to allow a Sport flyer to  
> 1) feel what a groovy, well set-up airplane feels like; and 2) have  a  
> competitive mount for the first couple of seasons of Pattern practice  
> and or competition. I am presently trimming the plane, and for the  
> purposes of the review, that amounts to a baby course in trimming. The  
> kit includes a soft mount, which the instructions warn may not be  
> sufficient for a 120 four-stroke, but looked perfectly adequate for a  
> 120 two-stroke, to me. As it turns out, it works great with a Magnum  
> 120 two-stroke. Right now, I am working with the Magnum factory to get  
> the engine just right: the carb was originally sized for higher RPM,  
> and the fuel draw was not right. The factory have been incredibly  
> cooperative, and if the engine with revised carb runs like it does  
> with the OS7M (yes the OS FSR 60 carb)  then we have a $150 solution  
> that allowed me to fly the FAI schedules with plenty of horsepower,  
> just yesterday.
>  
> A good running 120 two-stroke is a great solution for the Excelleron,  
> turning a 15-10 APC, in the mid eights, with the stock muffler. Short  
> of convincing a newbie to put the right glow-plug in the engine, we  
> can eliminate the engine related learning curve. Mine is about 8-3/4  
> lbs. Oh yeah, all this on 10% fuel. I'm sure that a Tiger 23 would be  
> a good choice, too. The 31 ounce Magnum did not make the plane too  
> nose-heavy.
>  
> Later,
> Dean Pappas
> Sr. Design Engineer
> Kodeos Communications
> 111 Corporate Blvd.
> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
> (908) 222-7817 phone
> (908) 222-2392 fax
> d.pappas at kodeos.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org  
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of  
> randy10926 at comcast.net
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 12:38 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: RE: Excelleron ST'd
>
> I looked at the Jett .90, 1.00 and 1.20.  They look real nice; but  
> seem somewhat pricey.  Maybe for my next one.  As I will be flying my  
> Excelleron90 at pattern primers, I am trying to go lower cost  
> options.  Ordered a Tiger Shark 120 which I plan on using with the  
> stock muffler.  Should be low enough cost that the average flyer could  
> afford to try pattern.
>  
> Randy 
>  -------------- Original message --------------
>
>  How about a Jett or Nelson .90? I am really impressed with the Jett  
> but have never seen one. The web site description is magnificent.
>  
>  
>  
> Rich
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org  
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Randy
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 12:23 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Excelleron ST'd
>
> Any more about the ST2300.  Looked at RC Universe, but how does it  
> fly?  Any problems with the CG.
>  
> My OS91FX is back to a stock carb but have gone with the OS update for  
> the rear needle valve assembly.  It is the rear needle vavle assembly  
> for the 65LA.  Mounted it on the fire wall.  Put the Utlra thrust  
> muffle on it.  Seems to have picked at lot of RPMs.  You open the  
> needle valve a whole turn when changing from the stock to the ultra  
> thurst muffler.  Only test runs on the apartment patio and man it is  
> really LOUD.  May be too load to use in pattern.
>  
> Anyway, thinking of a belated Christmas gift to myself.  So what would  
> be better on an Excelleron90 -  Tiger Shark 120, Magnum 120AR, thunder  
> tiger 120, Webra 120, or Super Tigre 2300?
>  
> Randy
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Bob Pastorello
> To: NSRCA
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 2:38 PM
> Subject: Excelleron ST'd
>
> Here's the thread on RCU with my latest efforts.  Have the ST2300  
> installed, broken in, and it is wonderful!!  Can't wait to fly her.   
> It all fit as if it was meant to be there!!!  Obviously, this is truly  
> outstanding power for this airframe.
>  
> http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2341036/anchors_2445489/mpage_5/ 
> key_/anchor/tm.htm#2445489
>
>
> Bob Pastorello
> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
> rcaerobob at cox.net
> www.rcaerobats.net
>  
>  
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