Newbie with a bad experience at pattern [PMX:]

[Jim Ivey]

Thanks Ron

Jim I> 
> From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
> Date: 2004/12/17 Fri PM 06:27:23 EST
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Newbie with a bad experience at pattern [PMX:]
> 
> 
> On Dec 17, 2004, at 5:14 PM, Jim Ivey wrote:
> 
> > Hey Mike
> > Move to Atlanta and I will help you. I have 5 guys under wing now and 
> > can add another.
> 
> Yeah.  Jim's got big wings.  The rest of him is big too!
> 
> Ron Van Putte
> 
> >
> >
> >> From: "Pascale, Mike" <VPASCAL at citgo.com>
> >> Date: 2004/12/17 Fri PM 01:33:21 EST
> >> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> Subject: RE: Newbie with a bad experience at pattern [PMX:]
> >>
> >> Thanks for the encouragement
> >> Have a merry Christmas
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
> >> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Fletcher, Richard
> >> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 12:26 PM
> >> To: 'discussion at nsrca.org'
> >> Subject: RE: Newbie with a bad experience at pattern [PMX:]
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike,
> >>
> >>     Stick with the Focus II and you'll be all set. It won the Nats in 
> >> '03
> >> and is as good a plane as there is on the market. I have one with an 
> >> OS 160
> >> and it was easy to setup and inexpensive as well.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks, Rich
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  ----Original Message-----
> >> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
> >> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Bob Pastorello
> >> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 1:06 PM
> >> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> Subject: Re: Newbie with a bad experience at pattern
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike, your story sounds like it was bad for you.  If so, I apologize.
> >>
> >> BUT - Your tale is the exception, by far.  If you browse a bit on 
> >> RCU, ask
> >> some questions, ask on this list, I think you'd find that 99.9% of 
> >> the time
> >> a "newbie" gets OVERWHELMED with offers of help.  Maybe I'm wrong, 
> >> but it's
> >> sure been my experience.
> >>
> >> As to your comment about Masters not forgetting where we came from - 
> >> well,
> >> some may.  But certainly not all, and certainly MOST Masters pilots 
> >> *ARE*
> >> the guys that are advocating for reason, logic, and 
> >> cost-effectiveness in
> >> the game.
> >>     We know what it took to get started, and did it at a time when 
> >> things
> >> weren't quite as rosy as they are right now, let me tell you.
> >>
> >> Bad experiences happen, but I hope that regardless, you'll look at the
> >> broader picture.  There isn't a finer group of guys who are committed 
> >> to the
> >> game than Pattern Pilots.
> >>
> >> Bob Pastorello
> >> NSRCA 199  AMA 46373
> >> rcaerobob at cox.net <mailto:rcaerobob at cox.net>
> >> www.rcaerobats.net <http://www.rcaerobats.net>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Pascale,  <mailto:VPASCAL at citgo.com> Mike
> >> To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 10:56 AM
> >> Subject: Newbie with a bad experience at pattern
> >>
> >>
> >> Let me tell you a short story from a newbie I flew for appox 10yrs 
> >> till 1978
> >> when I retired. Went to my first pattern contest in 2003 and said 
> >> that's
> >> what I want to do seen all those pretty birds and had to have one 
> >> asked
> >> around and  was told someone said he sells kits. He lives in middle of
> >> Texas.  all right asked if he had any for sell no but can get me a 
> >> kit in a
> >> couple months could hardly wait e-mailed him told me how much $ 
> >> 495.00 wing
> >> Fuse. And stab and a set of instruction. Well the fuselage was 
> >> cracked in
> >> two place the wings cores had no holes cut in them as I said no 
> >> nothing just
> >> cores now I'm lost so I email him and he says send them back at my 
> >> cost
> >> another $45.00 and still no idea how to build this plane this guy 
> >> Tells me
> >> about A person in Nederland TX that fly's pattern maybe he cane help 
> >> I call
> >> him and Buddy Brammer, Larry Mercer Ray Rhodes took me under there 
> >> wing now
> >> ever Friday I was going back and forth trying to get my fist patter 
> >> plane in
> >> the air had the fuselage ready to fill in all the holes left from the 
> >> molds
> >> I start epoxy and micro balloons  looking good till I start sanding 
> >> them
> >> smooth and low and be hold all the stuff I just put on fell off now 
> >> I'm in
> >> to $750 and still no were near being done well guess what the 
> >> fuselage is
> >> setting on my shelf and still no pattern plane. I flew a U CAN DO in 
> >> my
> >> first contest  and second  went Nederland TX and third to Hot springs 
> >> and
> >> flew over there won as I was the only sportsman flying ever one was
> >> encouraging but still no patter plane tried to talk to the people 
> >> that sold
> >> me MY fist plane and was told in so many words I didn't do ii right 
> >> now I
> >> have a contest in Lake Charles La so guess what I flew the U CAN DO 
> >> in 25
> >> mph and didn't win but had a lot of fun Thanks to Buddy, Ray, and 
> >> Larry,Ed ,
> >> Ned
> >>
> >> Now I have a Focus 11and have spent appox 2500.00 and still haven't 
> >> flown a
> >> patter plane I see this guys name all the time on this web site and 
> >> they
> >> have all the ans . But he had no TIME for a newbie except my money 
> >> and you
> >> all want to know why your membership is dropping as one of the guys 
> >> said
> >> take someone under your wing its amazing what will come out maybe a 
> >> world
> >> Champaign One more thing You all that fly Masters and up some times 
> >> it helps
> >> to remember where you all started some time you can't see the ground 
> >> for all
> >> the trees.Its not fun when you're the only one flying.
> >>
> >> I will fly pattern and will win but no help from the people from 
> >> Dallas Fort
> >> worth area
> >>
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