FW: Motion to adopt.

[vicenterc at comcast.net]

Thanks Chris:

No, don't think that is huge undertaking for a computer expert.  The big work is already done since all the information is already in electronic form when we finish a contest.    It is more difficult to develop the statistiscal model but looks like we already have one.  

I think NSRCA needs to have it as a goal.  It will be good idea that the first requirement to be processed in the database is that the person needs to be a NSRCA certified judge.  Probably, we will see more pilots not only be more willing to judge but also be certified.  

Vince  

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I agree Vince.

HUGE undertaking, but the results would be fantastic.  Imagine the ability to compare yourself to all judges across the country.  Now that's motivation to better yourself at your craft.

Hmmm..... At the same time, how about a national PILOT ranking system, similar to the one used in the USTA  ( Tennis ).  I believe they know their rank in their given class on a national basis.  Might be kind of fun, and good for us guys who can't travel to the Nats!  We could still be "competing" with guys from the other districts! 

Publish the top judges and the top competitors in each class in the K-Factor.

Chris Larson
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I am firm believer of statistics. I have not chance to read the program proposed but I am sure that should be based on statistical formulation.  In statistics, more data is compiled more valid will be the results and conclusions obtained from that analysis.  I am not am expert but I would like to see in the future a process of judge selection that is based on all information compiled in ALL contests around the nation.  Yes, I am proposing that all data be compiled and used to determine the best judges.  I don't think that this is very difficult task since the data is already available in electronic format.  We will need to make sure that the CD sends the information to the NSRCA.  I know that there will be many happy faces if some of the new candidates support this effort. 
 Mortal guys like me will say that this is impossible.  However, this is very easy task to someone expert in databases and computer programming.  We just need to make sure that all scoring programs produce the data in the format required.  That program will use the judge NSRCA number to send the information to be processed at the end of the year or season.  
The results of a process like this will be of immense value.  First, we will know how we are doing compared with others as judges in the nation.  Second, we will have the opportunity to try to improve each year base on the feedback.  In the nats., we will have more flexibility in selecting judges for different classes and team selection.
Sincerely,
Vince Bortone




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> Just goes to show how some people have selected memory loss with regard to 
> the judge evaluation program... Please read the quoted lines that RVP quoted 
> below - Eric H. is VERY familiar with the judge selection process and was 
> instrumental in getting it through the board of directors on 12/10/2002. 
> 
> Why is he questioning it now when he proposed its vote? Oh I get it... It's 
> election time! 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Ron Van Putte [mailto:vanputte at nuc.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:41 AM 
> To: officers at nsrca.org 
> Cc: Tony Stillman 
> Subject: Re: Motion to adopt. 
> 
> [NSRCA Officers] 
> I second the motion. 
> 
> As I explained at the Nats board meeting, Tony Stillman, Matt Kebabjian, Don 
> Ramsey and I have hammered out the skeleton of the judge evaluation prog 
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