Omaha and the Vert. 8

[Richard Strickland]

OK--Hey Todd, how have you been scored?
                                                                Richard
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Wayne Galligan 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:10 AM
  Subject: Re: Omaha and the Vert. 8


  I have seen Todd Blose do this well and the roll starts in the arc and continues through the apex at knife edge and into the down arc of the next loop.  Much like the loop with a full roll at the top only you have to change directions in the middle of the rolling segment.  Really  a neat looking maneuver when done this way.  Takes mucho rudder skills to do properly.

  Wayne G.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Steven maxwell 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:55 AM
    Subject: Re: Omaha and the Vert. 8


     From what I seen at the Nat's one one does this as it is supposed to be done even though I'm only an advanced pilot and even poor at that I have been doing the fai patterns for a 3 years now have tried this manuvuer many times even to the point of doing whole flights just trying this one manuvuer from what I seen all the contestants was doing a simple roll at the center and not incorporating into loops seems that minor downgrade for the roll and keep the geometry of loops right was the lesser of the two.
     Steve Maxwell

    Richard Strickland <richard.s at allied-callaway.com> wrote:
      Any FAI guys (gals) going to Omaha this weekend?  The Vert. 8 with 'integrated' half roll--Local judges vary on when the roll starts and stops.  If I start it up at the 45 degree point as shown in a judges guide; I'm having a hard time making it look natural.  If I come down just before the tangent, roll with the wings vert. at the tangent and let it fall slightly as the roll is completed, it looks better.  I'll keep working on it if we are truly supposed to start way up there--or is that just a REPRESENTATION to denote it's gotta start SOMEWHERE b4 the tangent?  To do it the way it's depicted--you are in effect catching the bottom of a knife edge loop and the nose would actually be pointed slightly positive to the horizon.  I haven't seen anyone really do it well around here with my limited exposure this year.

      Thanks,
                   Richard
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