Throw snap rolls out!!!!!!

[Rcmaster199 at aol.com]

Don't fret it so much Mike. Although I would agree that some can't seem to 
agree on the correct parameters to watch for,  it isn't much different in full 
scale aerobatics. Those judges have just as hard a time as us and I don't see 
full scale throwing anything out any time soon. Quite the contrary. No, I'm not 
that interested in judging or flying full scale aerobatics, BUT I try to 
emulate their stuff.

One of the key things I feel, is to have a model that has the capacity to do 
good snaps designed in. Many are not designed with snaps as the primary 
maneuver to be performed. Pattern models traditionally have been designed for 
smooth, graceful maneuvers, which typically means, smaller control surfaces. 

Times have changed; snaps do tend to require larger contorl surfaces to 
perform easily. That can be remedied when building the model. If a person doesn't 
build, that's a different story and he is at the mercy of the ARF maker and 
somebody else's idea of what it takes.

FWIW, I don't know what they allowed at the World's, I wasn't there, but 
performing a snap that is essentially a fast axial roll, will earn you a goose egg 
from the top judges in this country.

Earl Haury had a nice explanation on this list several months back and if you 
saved it, it's worth revisiting

Matt K




> Subj:Throw snap rolls out!!!!!! 
> Date:4/12/2004 7:50:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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>  How can we have a maneuver in our sequence that we can't even agree upon? 
> This debate is too hard to clearly answer. Is it a snap or a barrel roll? Was 
> there a break in pitch or not? If it's a true snap than it must pitch,yaw and 
> roll. Hmmm is that right? If it is than how would one achieve a perfect 
> score because it would then have to deviate from the flight path. Hey how come so 
> and so is doing crappy looking snaps that look like an axle roll scoring so 
> much better than myself who is doing a true snap?  
>  Bottom line is how am I suppose to judge it? We can't even get the judges 
> at the World Championships to agree on it. I think that until the time comes 
> that we can clearly understand it we have a huge problem. We should either 
> come to a better understanding of the maneuver performed correctly or dump it.
>  But hey you might not agree in which case I still don't know how to judge 
> you. Thanks, Mike
> 

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