Dist.6 Point System

[Troy Newman]

When it passed in D6 from Bob to me.....

The rules were the same except I would only count the contests where a pilot
was a member already. It was not written that way just seemed like the fair
way to do. This was by the way published in one of my articles.

In fact at the very first district Champs since  D6 went to the points
system...2000 Lubbock in October when Bob and jointed the Contest and I flew
and Bob spent all the time running it. A pilot would have won the D Champs
points but he was not a member until like 2 weeks before the October meet.
So His points were not counted for the previous contests.

Fair in my mind since it had been published prior.

Just a little history from one of the offending parties.

By the way a District contest was tough in D6...We choose Lubbock because it
was equal drive from all parts of the District. Colorado was a 600 miles
drive and so were the southern TX boys. Its very difficult to have a certain
segment travel 800-900 miles to a District event and hope they would come.
This is one reason a points system was kept while I served my time. Granted
a District contest was encouraged as it was double points....but it would be
possible for a well attended and flying pilot to win without the district
meet. The difference was an equally well attended and placing pilot that
went to the D Champs would be the D Champ.


Can't please all of the people all of the time and in fact can't please most
of them either.

Troy


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Pastorello" <rcaerobob at cox.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:07 PM
Subject: Dist.6 Point System ( WAS - NSRCA Formal Announcement)


> If a district chooses to have a single CONTEST determine the Champ, then
> I'd suggest membership be required prior to entry to THAT contest.
>
> If a district chooses to use an accumulated POINT System, whether in or
> out of District that adds up through the year, then I think we SHOULD
> have an "issue" with awarding a District Championship to a person who
> wasn't a member when going to those contests.
>
> When I was the District VP, we had just gone to an accumulated point
> system.  As far as I recall, we only required membership at the END OF
> THE SEASON, and I'm not aware of anyone 'gaming' the system to unfair
> advantage.  But this thread has pointed out (no pun intended) that some
> clearer guidelines may exist.
>
> FWIW - in District 6, I'd like to stay with the accumulating points
> scheme, BUT, count points earned ONLY after NSRCA membership.
>
> Seems like a great incentive to ENCOURAGE membership!  Sign up early,
> count more contests, have a better shot at being a District
> Champ...promo opp, there, maybe.
>
> How would the District provide that guidance to the AVP or VP to make a
> decision?
>
>
> Bob Pastorello
> El Reno, OK
> AMA 46373, NSRCA199
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> On Behalf Of David Harmon
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:38 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: RE: NSRCA Formal Announcement
>
>
> Its not the money or anything personal, I was not involved in any
> way....he was allowed to use contest points of an organization
> accumulated over 2002 to count in a CHAMPIONSHIP contest of an
> organization that he was not a member of....that's the issue....nothing
> else.
>
> Why not show the NSRCA card? Everyone shows their AMA card.....I show my
> FCC card.
> The slight difference here is that NSRCA membership is not required and
> the other two are.
> The points gained for the Championship have to be recorded anyway so
> what's the big deal?
> Maureen sends out the cards anyway, so there is no extra work for her.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Harmon
> NSRCA 586
> K6XYZ at comcast.net
> Torrance, Ca.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> On Behalf Of jim ivey
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:24 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: RE: NSRCA Formal Announcement
>
> I don't see the conflict here with all these threads. DOES IT MATTER
> WHEN
> YOU PAY YOUR DUES? As long as the NSRCA gets the full amount. The money
> goes
> in the same pot and does the same good in September as it does in
> January.
> If everyone did this it would create problems,however, this is one
> case.We
> don't prorate the dues. At least the guy paid and it doesn't matter what
> the
> motive was for not paying. He evidently was good enough to win and that
> is
> important. I think he should be welcomed into the organization. I also
> think
> this discussion about him could run him off (if it hasn't already) to
> never
> fly with us again. Has competition put blinders on us? We need to cool
> it
> with this discussion.
> I belong to three clubs and every club gives newcomers three(3)
> complimentary flying sessions before they have to decide to join.What is
> the
> big difference?
>
> There is a problem that happened to me that had to do with other
> districts
> flying in D3 Championships. We were vieing for championship points to
> win
> and these other guys took our thunder and placed above us.This reduced
> the
> points we won. Is that wrong or what?It should be our Championship
> contest,right. Yet we welcome the other districts to our Champs.
>
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT
>
>
>
>
> Jim Ivey
>
> jivey61 at msn.com
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "David Harmon" <K6XYZ at comcast.net>
> >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >Subject: RE: NSRCA Formal Announcement
> >Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:37:11 -0700
> >
> >That's the whole idea!
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Dave Harmon
> >NSRCA 586
> >K6XYZ at comcast.net
> >Torrance, Ca.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> >On Behalf Of Maureen Dunphy
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:00 PM
> >To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >Subject: Re: NSRCA Formal Announcement
> >
> >The only problem with that is, you would need to check NSRCA cards like
> >you do AMA cards to make sure they are current.
> >
> >Maureen
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: BUDDYonRC at aol.com
> >To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:18 PM
> >Subject: Re: NSRCA Formal Announcement
> >
> >Lance
> >How about having an NSRCA number on the Contest entry form, same as
> AMA.
> >Buddy
>
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