Multiple entries question

[mike mueller]

 So much for trying to be a nice guy Eric! I was thinking that the major objection would be from someone that was entered in only one class being upset at the guy flying against him and in FAI would be getting extra practice by having more opportunity to fly. The other thing I thought it could mess up in judging. It would be pretty tough to be a judge and fly in 2 classes.       Mike

"Henderson,Eric" <Eric.Henderson at gartner.com> wrote:I drew a lot of fire for flying in Masters and FAI a few years ago,. primarily because the word flying needs a better definition. Before I get into that, the motives for flying in more than one class are almost always to help the CD or even the competitors in the other class. In all cases I was asked if I would fly by the CD. I paid the money to prevent the CD losing money on the their trophy purchases. It felt noble and it never crossed my mind that someone would object.
 
People who were not even there, one guy in particular, wrote to the AMA and the NSRCA and the Eskimo-list objecting to this conduct. Why thought I? Years later I figured it out. Some of it was election politics but most of it was because of our desire to be precise and apply the rules. Once it was because I unwittingly took away some championship points from a contestant.
 
One year three of us in Advanced also flew Masters because no Master pilots had shown up. It saved the CD the cost of three unusable trophies and we had fun. This is where you get into the words, "Flying another class". It needs it be broken down into actually competing and qualifying for advancement and championship points, and just flying because you want to give it an unofficial go. You declare which is your official class and then one of them does not count. Sounds OK so far, but what about the situation where you beat someone in their official class when you are just flying for fun. Not good!
 
Once I was asked to fly so that two rival FAI pilots would have separation for the judges, sort of like a warm-up pilot each round. That was OK but what if I had, by some quirk of luck, had won!?  The net of it all is that flying two classes is that it does not work well. Based upon what I have seen and experienced I would not do it again.
 
As a pilot it was great fun. The CD's soon found that they could not use me as a judge. You really needed two planes, one set-up for each class. You needed a great caller and a lot of concentration. One contest ran two rounds in a row, one on each flight line. This meant I flew masters on line A and then immediately flew masters on line B. Then FAI schedule D on line A and the schedule E on line B. Try that without blowing a maneuver.... One contestant complained that it gave me, wait for it, an unfair advantage because I got more information on how the wind was blowing....
 
Never again. I'd rather give the CD a donation next time....
 
Regards,
 
Eric.
 
 
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From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bob Kane
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Multilple entries question


You could allow someone to enter their own class and FAI as long as it was spelled out in the sanction request and advertized as such. Thats the rule for deviating from the rules 

Patternrules at aol.com wrote:
Bob now that you mention it I do recall reading that, now would the advanced notice from the CD be able to change that rules for the contest?

Steve Maxwell 

Bob Kane
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