YS 140FZ Help

[Karl G. Mueller]

Georgie,

You remember correctly. No senior moment here. In some cases
I had to open up the airbleed-hole in the butterfly to as much as
3/32 dia., usually 5/64 dia. did the trick.

Karl G. Mueller
kgamueller at rogers.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "george kennie" <geobet at gis.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: YS 140FZ Help


> Am I experiencing another senior moment or do I remember that we were
enlarging
> the airbleed hole if the FZ's about 4 years back?
> Georgie
>
> jim ivey wrote:
>
> > Hotrod
> > I know you have the engine running now ,but I feel something is wrong
with
> > the low end adjustment.That is a air bleed and if you have to turn it
that
> > far out there may be something blocking the oriface.That many turns says
to
> > me the needle has no affect.
> > I would still take it apart and inspect very closely the low end needle
> > assembly for foreign (something )matter that doesn't belong there.
> > Just more tho'ts
> >
> > Jim Ivey
> >
> > jivey61 at msn.com
> >
> > >From: "D Suding" <junk at velocitus.net>
> > >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > >To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > >CC: <Hotrod34a at aol.com>
> > >Subject: Re: YS 140FZ Help
> > >Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:06:37 -0600 (MDT)
> > >
> > >Hotrod,
> > >
> > >I have an FZ pulling a 10.5 pound Temptation, and I also think it is a
> > >dream combination.  I can make any of the manuevers as large as I want,
> > >with power to spare. I'm using 30% cool power heli.  I recently did an
> > >overhall of the ailerons and elevator. I had everything set up to do 3D
> > >and used the radio to reign in the throws.  I ended up wearing out the
> > >servos, and never did have the precision centering. So I reduced the
> > >throws, and it just flies incredibly now.  The thing about the FZ is,
you
> > >don't have to put a pound and a half of fuel in it, so the fuel weight
> > >savings means a lighter airframe for the entire pattern. I can fly the
> > >Masters pattern on about 5 or 6 ounces of fuel!  I love that plane.
> > >
> > >-D
> > >
> > > > Eric,
> > > >     Yes, it is plumbed different, like to old ones, which I like a
lot
> > > > better.  Lot easier to install too.  You are right, the picture in
their
> > > > add is not  of the 140 Sport. I went to the field tonight and wound
up
> > > > setting the low end  adjustment to 5 turns out, and it idled really
> > > > nice, and just a tad rich on  the transition, but I can feel the
engine
> > > > developing more power every flight,  so I believe that was the
original
> > > > problem.  I just had never had to adjust my  L's out that far or
even
> > > > hardly move them, so this was all new and I didn't  want to move it
out
> > > > too far without some feedback.  Thanks to Earl, Glen, Bob,  Eric,
and
> > > > all those I forgot to mention for the help, believe I got it whipped
> > > > now.  And I can say this for the 140 Sport.  Definitely a lot
stronger
> > > > than  the old FZ's.  I have a 16 x 11 and am turning over 8600 at
the
> > > > present and  still a tad rich on the high end, like Bob said, maybe
1 to
> > > > 2 clicks rich.  I have  it in a 10# 7.2 Oz Temptation that I just
built
> > > > and I can see no reason to  need any more power for what I fly, and
> > > > again tonight, I put it through several  of the masters manuevers
that
> > > > require a lot of power and the only one I opened  it wide up on was
the
> > > > Square on corners, and then realized I didn't even need  it at full
> > > > throttle.  But, there was not much wind this evening either...so
that
> > > > will come into play down the road.  But what a difference in idling
vs
> > > > the  L's...Hardly any vibration at all which is a lot better on the
> > > > gear,  everything....Also can't say enough about the Temptation,
what a
> > > > sweet flying plane,  and you can fly it at any speed that you like
and
> > > > it performs flawlessly.  I  moved the CG back a little tonight from
the
> > > > recommended setting, and it  performed even better.  Very little,
and I
> > > > mean very little coupling on knife edge,  and had to mix 6% up
elevator
> > > > with the rudder to stop the slight pull to the  belly on knife edge,
and
> > > > 4% ailerons to stop what coupling that there was, as  Earl stated he
had
> > > > to do also.  Am looking forward to many many flights on this
> > > > outstanding plane.  Eric, you, Earl, and Tim were right on about
this
> > > > plane.....Again, want to thank everyone for their input.  Ron, hope
you
> > > > try their  suggestions, it worked for me...
> > > >
> > > > Larry Mercer
> > >
> > >
> > >
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