Pattern & Imac 2003 Nationals articles in AMA Mag.

Wed Oct 29 16:23:40 AKST 2003

Partly true--sweet wife anyway (first one wasn't too
fond of the hobby).  Not independently weathy, that is
for sure.  Pretty good job and lots of drive to
improve.

Ken

--- Gray E Fowler <gfowler at raytheon.com> wrote:
> Try sweet wife.....or not married
> 
> 
> 
> Gray Fowler
> Principal Chemical Engineer
> Composites Engineering
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> 
> 
> "Wayne Galligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
> Sent by: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> 10/29/2003 03:11 PM
> Please respond to discussion
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>         To:     <discussion at nsrca.org>
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>         Subject:        Re: Pattern & Imac 2003
> Nationals articles in AMA Mag.
> 
> 
> Ken,
> 
> I envy you.....  15-20 contest a season to my
> measley ole 6 and that's
> stretching it for me let alone the practice time. 
> You must be 
> independently
> wealthy or have a sweet job.
> 
> Good points....
> 
> Wayne G.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken McGuire" <rcplanefan at yahoo.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Pattern & Imac 2003 Nationals articles
> in AMA Mag.
> 
> 
> > George and all,
> >
> > This is my first post on this forum as I've been
> > lurking for a while.  I currently fly IMAC and
> have
> > for the past 3 years.  I have never flown pattern,
> > though I am interested in getting started.  I
> chose to
> > fly IMAC because I like the "scale looking"
> airplanes
> > and love competitive aerobatics.  I just wanted to
> > make a couple of comments on your post.
> >
> > First of all, I didn't attend the NATS this year
> which
> > kind of sucks because I live in Cincinnati and
> would
> > have only had about a 2 or 3 hour drive.  However,
> > there were 21 IMAC contests in my region (North
> > Central) during this past season.  All of these
> > contests occur on weekends and, as a result,
> require
> > that I take no vacation from work to attend.  The
> > average attendance was about 20 people--some had
> many
> > more than 30, a few had less than 20.  So, at
> least in
> > my region, the competitive circuit is full.  The
> NATS
> > would have required taking the better part of a
> week
> > away from work.  Nah, for me I can compete in
> 15-20
> > contests during the spring, summer, and fall.  No
> need
> > to skip a week of work for the NATS.
> >
> > Economic reasons?  Well, this has been said many
> times
> > before, but the top-of-the-line IMAC plane really
> > doesn't cost any more that a top-of-the-line
> pattern
> > plane.  I don't think that "most" IMAC guys have
> > planes worth >$7500.  I personally know very few.
> > However, most of the competitive planes are large.
> > Ever tried to ship one of these via the airlines?
> > Can't be done.  Which means you have to drive to
> the
> > contest--usually towing a trailer, or ship in a
> crate.
> >  Not alot of guys in California who want to do
> either
> > (and I don't blame them).
> >
> > The IMAC NATS to me is really just another
> contest.
> > And I have so many to choose from that don't
> require a
> > week away, that I chose to skip.  You are correct
> > about one thing--the article certainly won't help
> > future NATS attendence.  But there are plenty of
> other
> > "national" level contests to attend--the Joe Nall
> > Masters, JR Challenge, and Tuscon Shootout to name
> a
> > few.
> >
> > Anyway, I hope you guys realize that IMAC is
> really
> > the same type of guys as pattern flying
> competitive
> > aerobatics with a different type of plane.  Same
> goal
> > in mind, though--precision flight.  Please don't
> get
> > an "us vs. them" thing going.  This is supposed to
> be
> > fun--it sure a hell is for me!
> >
> > Ken McGuire
> >
> >
> > --- george kennie <geobet at gis.net> wrote:
> > > Boy, I had a similar reaction. After all the
> hype
> > > over the last several
> > > years about how Imac is the fastest growing
> venue of
> > > the sport, they had
> > > a total head count of 37??? C'mon, at a
> Nationals
> > > event???????????  As
> > > far as representatives of a SIG, it appears that
> > > they had absolutely
> > > zero support people. You can't feel that this is
> due
> > > to some economic
> > > condition, as all these guys seem to have
> airplanes
> > > in the >$7500
> > > category. It also sounds like they do not have a
> > > judging program to
> > > certify potential judges, as there were many
> > > complaints regarding unfair
> > > scoring awards, resulting in many pilots
> realizing
> > > that they had been
> > > unduly cheated.
> > > The overall tenor of the entire meet seemed to
> have
> > > a great black pall
> > > decend upon Muncie for the duration of their
> event
> > > with nobody leaving
> > > for home with a good feeling.
> > > This report certainly does not bode well as an
> > > encouraging carrot
> > > regarding future attendance.
> > > Their venue appears to require a super shot in
> the
> > > arm of administrative
> > > influx, if they are going to survive in a manner
> > > capable of sustaining
> > > any number base.
> > > It's very SAD!!!!!!!!
> > > Georgie
> > >
> > > Woodward James R Civ 412 TW/DRP wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > Have you read the write up by Eric and Ed
> > > regarding the Pattern and
> > > > IMAC nats results and event running in
> general?  I
> > > really enjoyed
> > > > reading Eric's article.  When I read the IMAC
> > > article I thought, "Ed
> > > > has a lot of courage to describe the event the
> way
> > > he did."  It once
> > > > again made me think of how lucky we are to
> have
> > > dedicated individuals
> > > > running our Nationals & NSRCA.  Lots of times
> we
> > > start threads about
> > > > what needs to be changed in pattern.  Given
> some
> > > things could be
> > > > improved; we must overall have a pretty good
> > > formula for getting
> > > > people involved & trained in judging.  The
> > > articles are definitely
> > > > worth a thorough read!!
> > > >
> > > > No flame suit, just starting dialog.
> 
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