Pattern & Imac 2003 Nationals articles in AMA Mag.

Del Rykert drykert at rochester.rr.com
Wed Oct 29 12:39:39 AKST 2003


Ken.
    Thanks for stepping up and sharing your views. You made some great points.
 
     Del K. Rykert
     AMA - 8928 
     NSRCA - 473
     Kb2joi - General 


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ken McGuire 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:35 AM
  Subject: Re: Pattern & Imac 2003 Nationals articles in AMA Mag.


  George and all,

  This is my first post on this forum as I've been
  lurking for a while.  I currently fly IMAC and have
  for the past 3 years.  I have never flown pattern,
  though I am interested in getting started.  I chose to
  fly IMAC because I like the "scale looking" airplanes
  and love competitive aerobatics.  I just wanted to
  make a couple of comments on your post.

  First of all, I didn't attend the NATS this year which
  kind of sucks because I live in Cincinnati and would
  have only had about a 2 or 3 hour drive.  However,
  there were 21 IMAC contests in my region (North
  Central) during this past season.  All of these
  contests occur on weekends and, as a result, require
  that I take no vacation from work to attend.  The
  average attendance was about 20 people--some had many
  more than 30, a few had less than 20.  So, at least in
  my region, the competitive circuit is full.  The NATS
  would have required taking the better part of a week
  away from work.  Nah, for me I can compete in 15-20
  contests during the spring, summer, and fall.  No need
  to skip a week of work for the NATS.

  Economic reasons?  Well, this has been said many times
  before, but the top-of-the-line IMAC plane really
  doesn't cost any more that a top-of-the-line pattern
  plane.  I don't think that "most" IMAC guys have
  planes worth >$7500.  I personally know very few. 
  However, most of the competitive planes are large. 
  Ever tried to ship one of these via the airlines? 
  Can't be done.  Which means you have to drive to the
  contest--usually towing a trailer, or ship in a crate.
   Not alot of guys in California who want to do either
  (and I don't blame them).

  The IMAC NATS to me is really just another contest. 
  And I have so many to choose from that don't require a
  week away, that I chose to skip.  You are correct
  about one thing--the article certainly won't help
  future NATS attendence.  But there are plenty of other
  "national" level contests to attend--the Joe Nall
  Masters, JR Challenge, and Tuscon Shootout to name a
  few.

  Anyway, I hope you guys realize that IMAC is really
  the same type of guys as pattern flying competitive
  aerobatics with a different type of plane.  Same goal
  in mind, though--precision flight.  Please don't get
  an "us vs. them" thing going.  This is supposed to be
  fun--it sure a hell is for me!

  Ken McGuire


  --- george kennie <geobet at gis.net> wrote:
  > Boy, I had a similar reaction. After all the hype
  > over the last several
  > years about how Imac is the fastest growing venue of
  > the sport, they had
  > a total head count of 37??? C'mon, at a Nationals
  > event???????????  As
  > far as representatives of a SIG, it appears that
  > they had absolutely
  > zero support people. You can't feel that this is due
  > to some economic
  > condition, as all these guys seem to have airplanes
  > in the >$7500
  > category. It also sounds like they do not have a
  > judging program to
  > certify potential judges, as there were many
  > complaints regarding unfair
  > scoring awards, resulting in many pilots realizing
  > that they had been
  > unduly cheated.
  > The overall tenor of the entire meet seemed to have
  > a great black pall
  > decend upon Muncie for the duration of their event
  > with nobody leaving
  > for home with a good feeling.
  > This report certainly does not bode well as an
  > encouraging carrot
  > regarding future attendance.
  > Their venue appears to require a super shot in the
  > arm of administrative
  > influx, if they are going to survive in a manner
  > capable of sustaining
  > any number base.
  > It's very SAD!!!!!!!!
  > Georgie
  > 
  > Woodward James R Civ 412 TW/DRP wrote:
  > 
  > > Hi All,
  > >
  > > Have you read the write up by Eric and Ed
  > regarding the Pattern and
  > > IMAC nats results and event running in general?  I
  > really enjoyed
  > > reading Eric's article.  When I read the IMAC
  > article I thought, "Ed
  > > has a lot of courage to describe the event the way
  > he did."  It once
  > > again made me think of how lucky we are to have
  > dedicated individuals
  > > running our Nationals & NSRCA.  Lots of times we
  > start threads about
  > > what needs to be changed in pattern.  Given some
  > things could be
  > > improved; we must overall have a pretty good
  > formula for getting
  > > people involved & trained in judging.  The
  > articles are definitely
  > > worth a thorough read!!
  > >
  > > No flame suit, just starting dialog.
  > >
  > > Jim W.
  > >
  > 


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