Pattern & IMAC 2003 Nationals articles in AMA Mag.

[mike mueller]

 Eric that sounds like such a good idea. How about a meeting with the heads of all 3 organizations to explore the possibility's. Common sense would tell 1 that it would be better for all of us. I too love both IMAC and Pattern and I think that the IMAC guys are dedicated. I have heard in the past that there have been rifts but this must be an old thing. I've only been back for 3 years now so maybe that's a history that I don't know about. 
  USRCA sounds good to me! Thanks, Mike Mueller

"Henderson,Eric" <Eric.Henderson at gartner.com> wrote:
Mike,
          I have always hated the split. I know how and why it happened and also know that you can't change the past.  I fly anything with wings and especially like flying both types of planes. (The real difference is the equipment specifications). The classes flown and the styles do need separate organizations to take care of their needs.
 
I wrote this several months ago, "Create the USRCA - United States Radio Controlled Aerobatics - A forum for common and collaborative issues to provide united national representation, (in particular to the AMA). Core group would be two rep's from each current and any new RC aerobatics SIG's".  (Nothing nasty came up on Google with the acronym-BTW). today this would be IMAC, SPA and the NSRCA forming the initial umbrella organization.  
 
The inherent problem with each discipline forming its own SIG is that the word "special" leads to much "specialization" and becomes a synonym for separation. Forming a USRCA keeps the SIG identities and operations fully functional, but creates a forum for common issues such as, sound regulation, Nat's locations, contest scheduling, rules cycles etc. that affect us all.
 
Howzat for food for thought.
 
Regards,
 
Eric.
 
 

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 I feel that we have so much in common with the IMAC guys. I really think that we would benefit if we would merge into one group and bring in the SPA guys too. It's RC aerobatics and 1 group would be more effective from the standpoint of strength in numbers and eliminating redundancy. If we would work together we would be much better off. But hey that's just my opinion. Mike

george kennie <geobet at gis.net> wrote: Boy, I had a similar reaction. After all the hype over the last several years about how Imac is the fastest growing venue of the sport, they had a total head count of 37??? C'mon, at a Nationals event???????????  As far as representatives of a SIG, it appears that they had absolutely zero support people. You can't feel that this is due to some economic condition, as all these guys seem to have airplanes in the >$7500 category. It also sounds like they do not have a judging program to certify potential judges, as there were many complaints regarding unfair scoring awards, resulting in many pilots realizing that they had been unduly cheated. 
The overall tenor of the entire meet seemed to have a great black pall decend upon Muncie for the duration of their event with nobody leaving for home with a good feeling. 
This report certainly does not bode well as an encouraging carrot regarding future attendance. 
Their venue appears to require a super shot in the arm of administrative influx, if they are going to survive in a manner capable of sustaining any number base. 
It's very SAD!!!!!!!! 
Georgie 
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Have you read the write up by Eric and Ed regarding the Pattern and IMAC nats results and event running in general?  I really enjoyed reading Eric's article.  When I read the IMAC article I thought, "Ed has a lot of courage to describe the event the way he did."  It once again made me think of how lucky we are to have dedicated individuals running our Nationals & NSRCA.  Lots of times we start threads about what needs to be changed in pattern.  Given some things could be improved; we must overall have a pretty good formula for getting people involved & trained in judging.  The articles are definitely worth a thorough read!! 

No flame suit, just starting dialog. 
Jim W. 






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