Angel's Shadow - What's left of it

Lance Van Nostrand patterndude at comcast.net
Tue Oct 28 18:53:15 AKST 2003


Heavy condolences to anyone losing a competition plane.  It hurts terribly.

What a hideous design!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know everyone doesn't have the time
to build, but when you do you know what's in it and any failures can be
remedied the next time.  If you can't build, at least buy from someone you
know and know his work.  High $$$ pattern kits are scarier than F-05!!!
There's so much at risk with other people's planes that it just isn't worth
it.  Especially when we literally strive to make the plane an extension of
ourselves.  Shortcuts often backfire.

--Lance

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Galligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
To: "Keith Black" <tkeithb at comcast.net>; "Lance Van Nostrand"
<patterndude at comcast.net>; "Gray E Fowler" <gfowler at raytheon.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Angel's Shadow - What's left of it


> Now that's what I call overkill on the foam reduction.  they would have
been
> better off to use balsa spars rather then foam.  That is totally underkill
> on the structure. Just how much weight can you save with this method?  I
> think if you start getting under 10-12 oz per panel there just isn't
enough
> structure there.
>
> WG
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Keith Black" <tkeithb at comcast.net>
> To: "Lance Van Nostrand" <patterndude at comcast.net>; "Gray E Fowler"
> <gfowler at raytheon.com>; "Wayne Galligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:48 PM
> Subject: Fw: Angel's Shadow - What's left of it
>
>
> > Did you guys see these wing panels?
> >
> > Thanks for suggesting those false ribs Lance!
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <adriancwong at att.net>
> > To: "Brian Young" <b4598070 at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "Atwood, Mark" <">atw"@paragon-inc.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: Angel's Shadow - What's left of it
> >
> >
> > > To all,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your kind words. My AS was # 64, you would have thought
> all
> > > problems would have been solved by now. A friend of mine, who is one
of
> > the
> > > FAI team member from Hong Kong told me that he saw a crashed AS in
> Poland,
> > > according to him, it looks like the same wing failure.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, the list doesn't allow picture posting. I am sending
the
> > > pictures to Brian Young, and Cc to all who have reguested on and off
> list,
> > > hope its OK.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Adrian Wong
> > >
> > > Chingbergh Enterprises, Inc.
> > > 1555 Lakeside Drive, Suite # 194
> > > Oakland, CA 94612
> > > Tel: (510)452-1005
> > > Fax: (510)452-0378
> > > E-mail: info at chingbergh.com
> > > www.chingbergh.com
> > >
> >
>
>

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