Bigger Issues

[vicenterc at comcast.net]

Troy:

Isn't the solution to have Masters = F3A?  I am flying Advanced and I am getting ready to move up.  My question is: which class to go and why? I know that there are advantages and disadvantages.  I see more advantages for local contests since there will be one class less to take care.  Also, having a common upper class will promote pilots like you to attend more contests.  

Vicente Bortone
> I understand you guys want suceed (sp?)  from the union...Hey living here in
> Atlanta I can understand that a little.
> 
> But here is a problem with events that don't sanctions. As a member of the
> F3A team selection program, this past cycle candidates were required to
> compete is 5 contests in order to qualify for the Finals event. Now this
> setup is to help promote F3A on a local contest level. We had a year plus
> some to get these 5 contests in....I know of one guy that had to travel
> about 1000 miles to an event....another event for this card punch.....The
> reason he had to travel this long distance to a contest is because a local
> contest in his district which he attended last fall was not a sanctioned
> event. Therefore it could not be counted. He almost missed the TSC because
> of a NSRCA run contest that was not sanctioned by AMA.
> 
> Now as for John's comment about F3A guys not supporting local events....I
> don't know what to say other than I personally attended 13 contests this
> year! 11 of which were local events. These were from California, Arizona,
> Nevada, out to Florida, Alabama, Carolinas, and Indiana.
> 
> Some of my fellow F3A competitors don't do this. I wish they did!
> 
> In the next Team Selection cycle if I attend an event to get my card punched
> and find out its not a AMA event and therefore nothing more than a fun
> fly....I doubt I will ever return to that contest out of frustration.
> 
> 
> Just some of the results of these actions. You can take your marbles and go
> home...but I think its foolish.
> 
> Troy
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Glaze" <billglaze at triad.rr.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Bigger Issues
> 
> 
> > Jerry:
> > Recently a good sized contest was held near here in NC with no sanction,
> > because someone dropped the ball.  It wasn't the end of the world.  It
> > was explained to the pilots, and nobody packed up and went home.
> > BTW: e-mail me off list with your phone number and when you would be
> > available to talk.  You asked for a briefing by someone who was on the
> > IMAC board when we were able to liberate ourselves from some of the AMA
> > oversight.  I was on the IMAC board at that time, and can explain the
> > chronology.  It would require a lot of typing, but I can explain
> > verbally in not too much time.
> > Bill Glaze
> >
> >
> > Jerry Budd wrote:
> >
> > > Gene,
> > >
> > > This is exactly my point.  NSRCA only needs AMA for insurance
> > > purposes, and that can be handled by requiring AMA membership to fly
> > > in an NSRCA sanctioned event, just as it is now.  There is really no
> > > need to apply/obtain for an AMA sanction (even a Class C event
> > > sanction) unless extending the insurance to the site owner for the
> > > event is a concern (most of the time it's not needed as most events
> > > are hosted at AMA Club fields).  F3A events can have a separate AMA
> > > sanction if needed to ensure the participants in the F3A Team
> > > Selection Program can get their qualification points.
> > >
> > > There seems to be a misconception that I'm advocating that NSRCA
> > > "break-away" from AMA.  That's not exactly accurate.  I just don't
> > > think that NSRCA needs AMA to tell NSRCA how to run a pattern contest,
> > > what maneuvers should be flown, or how often the sequence should
> > > change.  NSRCA can best decide that for themselves.
> > >
> > > As far as having an AMA sanction goes, I've never had anyone ever ask
> > > to see it (other than to get the sanction# to put on the form we mail
> > > back to AMA).
> > >
> > > Am I wrong on this?
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > >> Ron,
> > >>
> > >> Why is insurance an issue? If I'm an AMA member, I'm insured. If I
> > >> hold a
> > >> contest at my AMA Chartered club's field, I'm insured. I don't
> > >> believe there
> > >> is anything that prohibits us from having a "non-sanctioned" event
> > >> and still
> > >> being covered, as long as everyone meets the AMA's requirements for
> > >> coverage
> > >> to be inforce. But that's true even if the event IS sanctioned.
> > >>
> > >> If I didn't post a sanction at the contest would anyone ask to see
> > >> it? If I
> > >> advertised non-sanctioned would anyone NOT come?
> > >>
> > >> Gene Maurice
> > >> gene.maurice at comcast.net
> > >> Plano, TX
> > >> AMA 3408
> > >> NSRCA 877
> > >
> > >
> >
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