Bigger issues--Long as usual from me

[Bill Glaze]

Tony:
It seems to me if we "allow" the board to vote on the Annex, it will 
still be under their control.  Not a good thing.  It should be under the 
NSRCA control, or we will be back to square one.  If they vote to accept 
it, we will still be locked to the AMA for any changes we want to make, 
with all their procedural mumbo-jumbo, and dilatory delays.  (Been 
there, Seen that.)   Better that they reject it, and we adopt it.  It 
can be done.

Bill Glaze

Tony Stillman wrote:

> Jerry:
>
> Yes, I think that is where we are now headed.  AMA wants to start 
> moving the NATS around again.  They only want it held at Muncie every 
> other year, with the SIGS hosting the event in the "off" years.  Well, 
> if this is going to happen, we are going to have to have a little more 
> control on the Pattern rules and processes. 
>  
> This next year will provide more answers.  I'm sure, based on the 
> discussions I am seeing on this list, that we will be pushing the AMA 
> to relinquish more and more control on our event.  There response will 
> determine our future actions.
>  
>  
> Tony Stillman
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>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com <mailto:Rcmaster199 at aol.com>
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>     Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:17 PM
>     Subject: Re: Bigger issues--Long as usual from me
>
>     In a message dated 11/19/2003 6:52:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>     jbudd at QNET.COM <mailto:jbudd at QNET.COM> writes:
>
>
>>     >Am I getting a signal from this mailing list that we need to remove
>>     >ourselves from AMA and do everything ourselves?
>>
>>     I think the signal (read message) is that the NSRCA
>>     Officers/Leadership need to be willing to explore all reasonable
>>     possibilities concerning what is best for the NSRCA membership (the
>>     entire membership, not just the F3A community).  If that means
>>     backing away from SIG status to achieve the results NSRCA needs then
>>     that ought to be considered.  I suspect that it won't get that far
>>     though - AMA may be slow and bureaucracy laden, but they're not
>>     stupid (well... give me that one if only to make my point!).
>>
>>     Thx, Jerry
>
>
>
>
>     Jerry, et al
>
>     Not sure how much financial support the AMA gives the various WC
>     Teams; for the Pattern Team, Tony should have a pretty good idea.
>
>     Besides the insurance deal the AMA provides to all and the support
>     for the Team, what other benefit do they provide us? The main one
>     I can think of is the 160,000 +/-voice lobby in Washington, in
>     regard to flying sites for example. In my opinion, breaking
>     totally away from the AMA may not be in our best interest in the
>     long run.
>
>     Breaking away from the antiquated rules procedures is in our best
>     interest and I would support such a move.
>
>     My thinking is this: if we were to make our own rules and enforce
>     them as we saw best, it would require that we ignore only the
>     AMA's Pattern related rules. Basically, it would make the AMA
>     Pattern Contest Board totally moot for our purposes. Would that
>     make a difference to AMA? I would guess that they wouldn't like it
>     due to losing their control over Pattern, but what could they
>     really do about it?
>
>     We would still need to abide by all safety related rules, but
>     that's it. Obviously, without a flying site, the whole excersize
>     becomes moot. The AMA's Washington voice may be feeble, but I'd
>     like to believe that it has helped some of us keep some of these.
>
>     Contest Directors would still apply for the AMA sanctions as they
>     do now, but strictly for safety and insurance concerns. The rules
>     we fly under would be totally our own. The events could still
>     attract non-NSRCA members since they would still be advertised in
>     the MA magazine.
>
>     It seems to me that AMA  policy (lack of monthly reporting and
>     coverage of large Pattern events are two very recent examples) has
>     done quite a bit to alienate us from the fold. This isn't intended
>     as a means to get even or anything silly like that. It seems to me
>     that many of the members are simply fed-up with the ancient
>     processes AMA requires, and they (we) want some things done
>     better, easier, faster. After all, my car insurer isn't telling me
>     how to drive my car.
>
>     Matt K
>
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