Worlds e-mail answers....LONG

[Lance Van Nostrand]

Jason,
This was great!  I read the whole thing and felt like I was on an "NSRCA
pattern list" trivia show trying to remember the questions (I could for
most).

I met you at the TOC in 97 or 98.  You were the only pilot setup close to
the fence and the wannabes.  Class act then and class act now.

I'm proud you represented our sport at the Worlds.

--Lance

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason" <jasonshulman at cox.net>
To: "NSRCA" <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: Worlds e-mail answers....LONG


> Hi all,
>
> After the Worlds I came home to over 150 e-mails with something in regards
> to me flying an electric at the Worlds. I saved all the ones that had some
> sort of question, or something I felt I needed to comment on, that was
> directed towards me.
>
> Here are my answers/thoughts..
>
> 08-04-03
>
> Dave Smith- 22x12
> Eric H.- The pilot is allowed to fly anything they want as long as it is
> legal according to the rule book.
> Gary Fowler- Both are yes, win or lose.
> Don Atwood- Thank you
> Bill Glaze- Piloting ability. Yes.
> Ron Van Putte- According to the rule book, YES. I did not do it for
business
> reasons. At the time the only airplane I had for JMC was the Exhila
(35"ws,
> 18oz., 3D plane). I do now work at Hacker Brushless, but only because
living
> off of my good looks wasn't paying off. And I'm sure I'll always be
> second-guessed forever. It's my nature to want to be different, you should
> know. You remember me growing up and what I looked like. I know that
played
> a part of my results, most of the pilots told me that, but I was having
fun.
> When I decided to get serious, I got a haircut and some normal clothes and
> Walla, my FAI career headed for the sky. And when I went to Ireland with a
> Goatee.I was TERRIFIED, and it all stemmed back to the early years of
> "playing and looking the part".
> Dave Smith- As you probably know, Chip and I took our planes with us. Sean
> shipped his. Since I didn't need fuel, I went and practiced a day before
> Chip and Sean. Some of the Europeans were flying 250 and HUGE, but not the
> norm for the contest.
> Matt K.- I hope that we (judges) are choosing the quality of flying, not
> pilots and planes (ends up being that ultimately, but based on flight
> performance). And Team Gold is the first thing I shoot for, not individual
> achievements. I could have flown my AS from the TT, but I sold the back
up.
> I had 2 new ones on order, but they didn't arrive until the week we left,
> not enough time to debug them.IF they were finished. The Rhapsody's were
> finished weeks before we left, and the systems were all the same ones
being
> flown by the likes of the Hacker crew and Gary Wright for over a year
> before. Actually the Team didn't have to agree on it, but I did seek their
> opinion. Chip loved it (watching and flying it) and Sean and Tony weren't
> around to comment.
> Mark Atwood- Chip only switched between bipes at the Nats. And the
comments
> were only one way.LOL.
> Bob P.- Thank you.
>
> 08-05-03
>
> Lance- No necessary to discuss with other team members, but I did try as I
> personally wanted them to be comfortable with my choice.
> Harry S.- So true. Thank you for your support, and it's true that we get
> snips in Poland. I had a Team Manager come up to me and tell me that I was
> the talk of the list and I may not want to go back home unless I finish
> well..Imagine my expression, even though he was joking to a point. Careful
> of sticking your neck out too far and thanks for your support.
> Deanno- Thank you
> Marty P.- Thank you. And the Team is made up of 3 individuals, no matter
how
> you look at it. I strive to do my very best, as do Chip and Sean. The Team
> part comes into play when one of us does something that may affect the
> others. That's why I made an effort to let everyone (Team wise, sorry
> pattern world) what I was doing and if they thought it was as good as I
was
> perceiving it to be.
> Wayne- Thank you and so true.
> Jon Uhler- We are selected based on performance, not equipment used. If
not,
> is that why Don didn't make the Team, cause he was flying JR (only
> difference from the top 3)?
> George F.- ROFLMAO..fun thing this internet is..
> Martin M.- Don't hold me to this, but if AMA made the rule, it only
applies
> to AMA events, Yes? It was competitively motivated, not business related.
> Gerald Williams- Even though humorous, I thank you for the support, and
it's
> true about the new designs. Wolfgang/Roland already have a Lazuitte done
in
> electric and flying it. Right Lance.LOL
> Bill Glaze- Charge it of course..LOL
> Dave Smith- Thank you
> Jon Uhler- I never use something just cause a sponsor wants me too. It
took
> me 6 months to switch from the 9V to the 9Z (flew a Team Trials and Nats
> with the V over the Z). And if the Rhapsody's were available to me for the
> TT, they would have been there, but they were a couple weeks late.
> Lance- I'd be curious if Tony had something like this before when he was
> team manager (pilots asking approval before hand). Tony?
> Ron Van Putte- Was Tony unhappy or just concerned, there is a big
> difference. I respect Tony, Chip and Sean enough that again, I chose to
get
> their opinion.
> Earl Vincent- LOL.Great.
> Bill Harden- Risk..Without Risk There is NO Reward.or something like
> that..The only risk I feel I took was flying the Rhapsody's, not the
> electric power.
> Jim Ivey- As much as I would like to believe that my reputation could with
> stand a blow like causing the US Team not to win the Gold, I don't feel it
> could. But I thank you for the support.
> Buddy Brammer- Thank you for the support. There is an F5A class, or at
least
> there was. While at the Worlds, Sandy Pimenoff and the FAI crew were all
> discussing canceling F5A because of what I did in F3A with electric. So
goes
> my chance at an F5A World title.LOL
> Mike Mueller- I believe that the only ones who care about the US Pattern
> Team winning the Team Gold are US Pattern Fliers (and maybe a few future
> pattern pilots). But for me its about doing my part in winning a gold
medal
> for the Team. I personally feel that making any rules because of my
actions
> here will hurt pattern progress in the future. Just because the "US
Pattern
> World" didn't see what I was doing to approve it for me, doesn't mean that
I
> was jeopardizing the US Team in any way.
> Gary Wright- Close enough.LOL
> Bill Harden- Up until the week before we left for Poland, the Rhapsody's
> were my only choice in equipment. And if I had to get the 2 new AS's
ready,
> there was a fear of making weight (in such short period of time). One
thing
> that I was planning on was the Judges reaction to the electric. Working
with
> Sean Plummer (Hacker Brushless USA) on this project, he was 99% sure that
it
> was going to be nothing but favorable. The most stunning thing to me was
to
> have some of the judges come up to me after they saw me fly it was " I'm
> glad to see that it is possible to fly F3A with electric", and "Thank you
> for showing us that it can be done". Imagine my thoughts after hearing
> this..to say the least, I was floored. I knew (unfortunately) that the
World
> was watching. That put me in a very uncomfortable position. I try not to
be
> the "star", I prefer to be the lurker that just "happens" to be there in
the
> end. And I'm glad that I can perform under stress..or at least for 9 out
of
> 10 rounds.
> Gary Wright- I believe it is the fear of the unknown (which I love.oh,
that'
> s Unknown patterns).
> Terry T.- I'm glad that Joe Gross had been flying electric at the Nats for
> the past 2 years, it shows he's having fun.. And I do believe that he has
> something in the works..
> Peter Pennisi- I don't believe it should be discussed, but I personally
> wanted to. And what if I lived in Montana, away from the others, then it's
> only phone/e-mail conversations about my choice. I'm just glad that we
could
> all communicate with one another. It was a first for me.
> Bill Cripe- Thank you
>
> 08-06-03
>
> Marty P.- If only the first and last parts were true. But Chips comeback
> sure is.
> George F.- Thank you
> Martin M.- Thank you oh so much.
> James Woodward- I am actually a bit shocked at the comments about Joe's
> plane. Whose business is it to determine what one can and cannot fly
> (outside of the rules)? I'm glad he is HAVING FUN flying pattern. Sure his
> plane isn't the state-of-the-art 2M plane, but so what. The man is having
> fun and I hope I can continue to do the same, regardless of the plane I
fly.
> Besides, remember all the complaining about flying P-05 around here next
> year..I'm pretty sure Joe would join us.
> Eric H.- I am going to insert my comments following your statements:
> My own opinion is as follows (And mine will follow like this):- I would
> have liked to have seen Jason's plane at the Nationals so that I could
make
> an informed opinion. (Nothing personal, but your opinion is yours, glad
you
> have one, but the only opinions I would/did seek were that of the directly
> involved, actual team members)   Chip took his chances and flew his
> Bi-planes at the team trials and the Nat's. ( He has drive and
determination
> like no other, and also had planes and help before each contest)   We got
to
> see the capabilities of the plane, (Not just the pilot). ( Have you flown
> the DV to see it's capabilities, or Chips piloting abilities?)   He also
> debugged a loose stab and some YS crankshaft prototype counter-weights.
(And
> a few others in prototype products)   Jason's electric is a huge unknown
in
> a competitive situation. (Sure, but nothing I used was a prototype
anything,
> it was all available parts that have been around for some time. And what's
> the difference in a competition situation verses a practice situation? Was
> the fact that Chips YS flooded during the contest and not at practice one
of
> those situations?)   As a person who has contributed energy, written
effort
> and personal finance to the support of our team, I am much more
comfortable
> with Chips approach. How I see this has nothing to do with rules and
rights
> but much more the issue of obligations to those who ran team trials,
raised
> funds, and sat in the judges chairs.  (And how do you think I felt being
the
> ONLY electric at the Worlds and having a crowd, sometimes larger than
CPLR's
> crowd watching.WITHOUT words cause they would stand out like a sore thumb!
> Check out Quiet Flyer (Nov-2003 issue) and I describe my first flight.)
> Jon Uhler- Like above, I too have an opinion. My opinion is that my use of
> electrics WAS in question, not how I flew the planes. Electrics are no
more
> up and coming, they have been here..just in quiet (not intending the pun).
I
> was even flying planes that could hover and rocket out 2 years ago, and
with
> Li-Poly's, it just got that much better. My poor showing came in Round 1
in
> the finals. And because of that one round, I ended up 7th. It would have
> been the same with the AS or any other "normal IC pattern plane". And as
far
> as addressing anything in the future TT..there's no need to.
> Martin M.- How many more times can I thank you..thank you, thank
> you..etc.....
> Buddy Brammer- Thank you again, and yes, if the Kerosene YS existed (or
> better yet, OS) then because it didn't run on Nitro and such it would be
> here for debate.
> Bill Glaze- LOL..
> Jerry Stebbins- THANK YOU!!!
> John Ferrell- True, and on this one I'll keep my opinions to myself.
> Buddy Brammer- I'll answer them: Nothing. For me, 3 times, but who
> remembers.right. I only had 1 that was actually at the following Worlds.
> Only 1st Worlds did I use the same. Only Futaba!!!
> Ron Van Putte- The plan was to try the electric (and for me hoped it
worked,
> I really wanted it to) and see. I bought 2 new AS's which didn't arrive in
> time. All this WAS BEFORE the Team Trials. But late deliveries caused it
to
> run afterwards, oh well. All the equipment used had plenty of time on it,
> except for the mini-Futaba digitals, they were only out for about 4
months.
> And 12 Volts is still 12 Volts over there. As you said, the "infamous BIB"
> saga.that's part of my reputation now. But I'm not sure how.
> George F.- Thank you and I hope that it does spark an interest for some to
> come back or just start flying pattern.
> Part 2 George F.- LOL.and Thank you
> Mike McC- Thank you
> Tony "The Man" Stillman- Thank you for all of you support and
concern..makes
> me feel wanted.LOL!!! I'm just glad I flew my 1/3 of a part for OUR Gold.
> Earl Vincent- Stop telling them you remember me as a kid..I'm almost 30
> now.LOL. Thank you for the support. Everyone was surprised, and even a
> couple of other Top 15 pilots had/were trying electrics for the Worlds. I
> was just lucky enough to have the support behind me.
> Marty P.- See Jim..
> William Harden- I understand everyone's concern of the unknown, but it was
> only going to go if it was capable of the best. It was close enough and
with
> some hard work, I made it though it all.
> Bob P.- Pretty neat huh?
>
> 08-08-03
>
> Brian Young/Mike McC- I set it up like a glow motor. Had a idle cut and
set
> the idle at about 500rpm (ok so it's slower than glow, but I didn't stop
> it). Stall turns and spin entries would have been nearly impossible with a
> stopped prop, plus downlines are too fast stopped.
> Anthony Abdullah- Thank you.LOL
> Keith Black- 2. Correct. 3. It doesn't. 5. Used one. 8. 2 connections, but
> could have been one, and other things get hotter than the connections. 11.
> Separate, dead stick. 12. Right on. 14. with-in 30 minutes, it's cool
enough
> to charge. 16. This is a REAL concern. It'll eat you alive worse than any
IC
> motor can. 17. Failsafe to throttle cut. 18. Well, sometimes it takes the
> hard way to learn about new things.
> Bjorn Lehnardt- It will take sometime, but they will come down.
>
> And all of the Congrats that followed, thank you. Without you supporters,
we
> couldn't afford to represent you at the Worlds (or at least I couldn't).
>
> Jason
> www.jasonshulman.com
>
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