Spoilers for Pattern Planes?????

[dwbrown285 at netscape.net]

I can remember quite a few people doing this in the early nineties, reflexing the ailerons up to slow landing speed. One in particular that I remember was Larsen Anderson, a former Masters Class National Champion. He could consistantly drag in his Jekyll(?) very nose high doing this with lots of throttle management to control the descent. I never tried it though.

In the late eighties I did have a Super Curare that had seperate flaps and spoilers. That was very interesting! The flaps were small, about 2" x 4" and the spoilers were only about 1/2" x 4" and located a couple of inches in front of the flaps. It worked really well at slowing things down when you could pull it all together as far as coordinating it all. I did tend to get into trouble alot with that setup during HOT approaches and moments of indecision!!

David Brown
Huntsville, AL       


"Del Rykert" <drykert at rochester.rr.com> wrote:

Hi Larry.
    Some of us fo choose to reflex our ailerons up on landing to add more drag. Almost always have to mix in some elevator for this condition. It helps allow a steeper decent without a big increase in speed. A spoiler is a different animal as far as coming up in the top of the wing to spoil lift over that area of the wing. I remember someone once adding a split rudder that opened at trailing edge to create drag. I never witnessed how well it worked.
    The truth to remember is the key to slowing down your approach speed is to raise the nose while on your downwind to slow a clean pattern ship down. Then let it settle at its trimmed sink rate using your idle of your engine to control your decent path.
    Hope this helps.

     Del K. Rykert
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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Larry Diamond
  To: NSRCA
  Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:19 PM
  Subject: Spoilers for Pattern Planes?????


  OK...Maybe I'm loosing my mind...

  I had a conversation with an individual that told me I was wrong and    that we don't use nor will ever use spoilers for a pattern plane.

  I do have at least one e-mail referencing that some folks in New Jersey have tinkered with this. I seem to recall a number of posts but I can' find them.

  What I would like to do, is take the responses (Good / Bad) from this thread to form my own opinion.

  I have never tried it. But I think it was advise I received from a thread on trying to control the speed of my landings for short runways. But I really don't recall all the points...

  Then again, perhaps I have lost my mind...

  See ya,

  Larry


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