Speaking of power

[Dean Pappas]

John,
Sometimes, all you have to do is show the authorities that you're cognizant of the problem. You did right to start with something easy to meet. It still requires some effort, but hey it's worth it.
Of course all we do is aimed at satisfying a reasonable neighbor. The noise talk I give, almost always starts with the story of how I got chased off a field, for a noise complaint,  with a glider. The cop had a good laugh, and promised that if the old lady ever called again, that they would ignore the call. So my buddy and I started to fly 1/2-As in the same park. Yes ... a little old lady. It obviously wasn't the noise, it was that she saw an airplane, and just couldn't stand the idea that someone was having fun.
 
Tony R., you out there, tell them about the condo owners with the commuter railroad line right next to them that complained about your field's noise.
 
Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: John Ferrell [mailto:johnferrell at earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:07 PM
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Our club is in the process of trying to add a second field. This would be on a closed land fill site. As such, the State, County and all are questioning the noise potential. We chose to submit a copy of the proposed (current?) IMAC specs because they were endurable for all. That won't make allof our members happy, but that seems the best compromise at this time. 

John Ferrell 
6241 Phillippi Rd
Julian NC 27283
Phone: (336)685-9606  
johnferrell at earthlink.net
Dixie Competition Products
NSRCA 479 AMA 4190  W8CCW
"My Competition is Not My Enemy"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Gray E  <mailto:gfowler at raytheon.com> Fowler 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: Speaking of power


One more note about the 103 dB limit... dissapeared were 4 gas planes measured on the ground-no supersonic prop- 104, 105 106 and 108 dB! 




Gray Fowler
Principal Chemical Engineer
Composites Engineering 



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In a message dated 5/30/03 6:39:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, gfowler at raytheon.com writes:


Good for FAI being 94 dB, but 96 is plenty low. While I was Pres of my club we passed a noise ordinance rule, measured the same way pattern planes are.....limit is???? 103 dB!! And this was not politically easy, but at least it now stops the monster screamers and now when someone has a loud plane EVERYONE questions is it and we measure. 
94 dB is too low considering that an ARF trainer with a bb .46  is 95-96 dB. Getting a club noise rule in place is good, but for us a bit late. The gassers already pissed off two neighbors and now the 94-97 dB plane is a nusiance to them even though those planes had been flying near their houses for 5 years without any complaints. I suggest that all clubs get something in place BEFORE the problem starts. We were proactive and had the rule voted on but not active when the first major complaint happened. Now it is an on going battle. And like someone else mentioned...the loud plane disappeared...not come back with a "real muffler"....just gone and that is fine with the entire Richardson club. By the way...we also banned props over 22" as they were a huge noise culprit.



Gray Fowler
Principal Chemical Engineer
Composites Engineering 


I'll "chime" in here.  Everyone who thinks they don't have a noise issue should read this and pass it on the their club officers, because the reality is that once you get noticed you can't be quiet enough.  This noise thing will be much easier if we are proactive.  I know this is not popular, but it is reality.  

Bob Whitacre 



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