Speaking of power

[Earl Vincent]

Try talking to the big bang gas guys, I get an attitude if I even bring up the subject, at the local field a new house was being built
in line with the runway, after a few minutes of torque roles and water falls a little to close to the house the sound of a shot gun
blasted from the back yard, owner said it was target practice, I have been flying my pattern plane in the same area and no complaints, it went to court and the owner was wronged for discharging a fire arm but we all know there are other ways of shooting
someone down, this guy is into rc cars and I am sure he knows about jamming a channel, if there is a noise rule then ALL AMA
members should have to follow it, pattern planes, giant scale or Sport Planes all of us can be responsible for the loss of a field. Just my opinion for what its worth.    PS: the gas guy has looked for another place to fly instead of trying to quiet his horse, some
guys LOVE the noise, try and change that, I don't think so.
Earl Vincent
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ed Miller 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:25 PM
  Subject: Re: Speaking of power


  We all should be. The number of flying sites lost each year, especially on the east and west coasts due to noise, is a crime. Long term noise reduction/enforcement for all models should be an AMA priority, plan and goal. Unfortunately the almighty buck spent on advertising seems to get more attention and takes priority. Pattern flyers as a community have and should continue to lead by example in this arena.
  Ed M.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Gray E Fowler 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 6:35 PM
    Subject: Re: Speaking of power



    Who's pressing for lower noise? 



    Gray Fowler
    Principal Chemical Engineer
    Composites Engineering 


         "wgalligan" <wgalligan at cnbcom.net> 
          Sent by: discussion-request at nsrca.org 
          05/29/2003 04:10 PM 
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    Based on all other models... our pattern planes are by far the quitest airplanes in the air.  I have seen a few IMAC's that have the noise down some but they still get a good prop rip at speed.  The .15 to .60 size engines make an iratating high pitch whine. 
     Why is it that the pattern planes are some of the quietest yet we are still pressed for lowering the db even more? 
      
    WG 
      
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dean Pappas 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:55 PM 
    Subject: RE: Speaking of power 

    Thank You for making my point Tony ... actually I am even more concerned with the subjective in-the-air noise. 
    I fly at a beautiful and genuinely noise-sensitive site (1/4 mile from the site of Washington's crossing the of the Deleware on the Jersey side). 
    I don't even look at the meter anymore: my ears are tougher! 
    Dean 
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tony Stillman [mailto:tony at radiosouthrc.com]
    Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 4:17 PM
    To: discussion at nsrca.org
    Subject: Re: Speaking of power

    Actually, it's 2 db OVER if your flying at the Team Selection Contest!  Yes, these high-power engines turn bigger props, so noise is a factor... 
      
    Tony Stillman
    Radio South
    3702 N. Pace Blvd.
    Pensacola, FL 32505
    1-800-962-7802
    www.radiosouthrc.com 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Bob Kane 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 12:09 PM 
    Subject: Speaking of power 

    Has anyone measured the sound levels of the larger two strokes turning the big props?  We measured a YS140DZ with ES pipe turning a 17X12 APC and came up with 96dB, right on the limit.   Just curious. 


    Bob Kane
    getterflash at yahoo.com 


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