question regarding header & tuned pipe

wgalligan wgalligan at cnbcom.net
Tue Mar 25 07:35:29 AKST 2003


When we ran go karts back in the 70's we had our own tuned pipe with an adjustable stinger.  When we came out of the turns at low rpm's we had the pipe long for the low end power and as we went into the straights or long stretchs we would shorten the pipe to get more top end.   Too bad one couldnt rig something like this to your throttle.

Wayne

 I too run my os1.40 at 1/2 to 1 inch long to smooth out the midrange 
> and reduce the peakiness of the engine.
> 
> 
> > Bill,
> > 
> > This may be optimal for top end but where you really want optimal 
> performance on a 2 stroke is in the midrange and backing up a little 
> helps in that range... so I have been told... and it works on my 
> engine...  so THERE.    Heh! heh!....
> > 
> >  Wayne,
> > > 
> > > Good suggestion for tuning the pipe, however, there is a school of 
> thought
> > > that suggests going a little shorter (or past) optimal rpm on the 
> test stand
> > > when shortening the pipe, because the engine will unload in the 
> air thus
> > > increasing rpm.  The result is that you're tuning to a higher rpm 
> in the air
> > > than on the ground, and higher rpm means shorter pipe.  You can't 
> really
> > > confirm this unless you find a way to tach the engine in the air.  
> Just a
> > > thought - my $0.02.
> > > 
> > > Bill
> > > 
> > > ----------
> > > >From: wgalligan <wgalligan at cnbcom.net>
> > > >To: discussion at nsrca.org <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: question regarding header & tuned pipe
> > > >Date: Tue, Mar 25, 2003, 7:40 AM
> > > >
> > > 
> > > > I have a header (Karl Mueller type, one of the best custom mades 
> I have
> > > > seen) that has a smaller diameter then the pipe itself and it 
> does not seem
> > > > to effect the tuning.  If you can set up your engine on a test 
> stand then
> > > > move the pipe to a long setup to begin with.  Then move the pipe 
> in a .25
> > > > inch at a time and check rpm's.  There should be an increase in 
> rpm each
> > > > move of the pipe.  Keep moving it till the rpm's max out then 
> back the pipe
> > > > out to the previous position.  This should be the optimal 
> setting for the
> > > > top end of the rpm range.  Now this can all change depending on 
> prop and
> > > > fuel so testing with different combinations is usually needed.  
> And the
> > > > engine will unload in the air a little too so you might have to 
> move the
> > > > pipe back a touch.  At least thats the way mine setup the 
> best.   Spins a
> > > > 17x12N APC @8400 on 15% Cool Power.
> > > >
> > > > Wayne
> > > >
> > > >    > Hi, All,
> > > >>
> > > >> I have a question regarding the header & tuned pipe.
> > > >>
> > > >> I will be testing a really light Tuned pipe (Japanese F3A pilot 
> is testing
> > > >> the pipe on OS 140).  It is 550mm length, 48mm diameter, 18mm 
> inlet
> > > >> diameter.  38g for weight.  I will have to weigh it before 
> believing the
> > > >> weight of this pipe.
> > > >> I believe the pipe is being tested with Hatori/OS header
> > > >>
> > > >> My headers have diameter of 20mm ~ 22mm (Macs headers) that is 
> larger than
> > > >> the inlet of the pipe.
> > > >>
> > > >> Does the differences in the diameter of Outlet of header and 
> Inlet of pipe
> > > >> make differences when tuning for the pipe?
> > > >> thanks,
> > > >>
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