Color Schemes, the good the bad and the visible

Thu Mar 6 06:40:05 AKST 2003

I discovered PINK back in the early 80's when i was flying sailplanes. My daughter was born in 83 and i just finished framing an Airtronics Sagitta 900. I covered it in pink monokote and sprayed the fuse pink as well. The trim was chrome monokote.
Still have that plane in pristine condition.

Boy.....Did i hear some comments on that plane!!!! Until i launched.....Then they shutup. The plane turned red in the air and the chrome lit up big time when the sun hit it just right.

Girly on the ground? Well yeah....but not in the air...John G.

-------Original Message-------
From: Paul Reed <paul at judco.net>
Sent: 03/06/03 12:51 PM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: RE: RE: Color Schemes, the good the bad and the visible

> 
> Hey Eric....careful with calling those colors "Girly"! Those colors are on
my new plane. You might make me get all sensitive and cry....hehehe ;-).

Regards,
Paul Reed
Quality Coordinator

-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Henderson,Eric
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:11 AM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: RE: RE: Color Schemes, the good the bad and the visible

When all is said and done, you might want to look at this from a judges
point of view. If a judge has difficulty seeing your plane compared with
your competition you might lose?

Next time you are in the judges chair consider taking take note of what
you
could see the best.

I personally think that Chip's colors are a bit "girly" being pink and all
that!, but you have no trouble seeing his plane. Check out the winners and
I'll wager that they each had high-vis schemes..

My 2 pennath!

Eric.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Pappas [mailto:d.pappas at kodeos.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:15 AM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: RE: RE: Color Schemes, the good the bad and the visible

Hi All,
A few years back, Flying Models ran a very informative article called
"Paint
for Performance", written for us by Bob Noll. He integrated both his own
ideas those from other pilots. I will try to dig up the info on which
issue
it was.
Dean Pappas

-----Original Message-----
From: Tomanek, Wojtek [mailto:tomanekw at saic-abingdon.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:13 AM
To: 'discussion at nsrca.org'
Subject: RE: RE: Color Schemes, the good the bad and the visible

I hope someone is capturing all of this for a K factor article.  If not I
can but I have deleted some of the earlier ones, including my own.  If
someone could send them to me off-line that would be a good start.

TIA,
Wojtek
NSRCA

 -----Original Message-----
From:    	Anthony Romano [mailto:anthonyr105 at hotmail.com]
Sent:   	Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:30 AM
To:   	discussion at nsrca.org
Subject:   	Re: RE: Color Schemes, the good the bad and the visible

Shapes do make a great difference. On my one color flying wing a couple of
8" black diamonds on a yellow background made the bottom very distinct.

Anthony

>From: "Anne & Xavier" <xavier.mouraux at sympatico.ca>
>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>Subject: Re: RE: Color Schemes, the good the bad and the visible
>Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:22:02 -0500
>
>I would add something else on the shape. I was told by a friend once,
that
>the eyes see shape differences better and quicker than colour
differences.
>Triangular shapes on top and rectangular shapes on bottom or triangular
and
>round could be good. That's what I usually try to do and it works for me.
>As it was said, at a distance, everything become grey. Grey, dark grey,
>darker grey and light grey. If you could use a computer program like
>Photoshop, create your scheme (or at least the same colour arrangement)
>then
>turn it to greyscale. Check if you still see it. Try it from a distance
>from
>the screen also. If it is still visible, you are on a good track.
>Bob Noll also says that he always try to have half and half dark and
light
>on top, bottom and sides of the plane.
>
>Xavier
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ron Lockhart" <ronlock at comcast.net>
>To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:15 AM
>Subject: Re: RE: Color Schemes, the good the bad and the visible
>
>
> >
> > A few more thoughts (that are in agreement with
> > Terry and Wojtek comments)
> >
> > At a distance in poor visibility conditions there
> > is only light and dark, color isn't distinctive.
> >
> > I like a mostly white top, with a spanwise dark
> > stripe. Red, Blue, Brown, Orange, etc are all dark.
> > Only white, and lemon yellow, not cub yellow,
> > appear distinctively light for me.
> >
> > Bottom mostly dark with chord wise light stripe,
> > or light with large chord wise dark stripe and
> > dark fuse bottom.
> >
> > Later, Ron Lockhart
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tomanek, Wojtek" <tomanekw at saic-abingdon.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, March 5, 2003 9:01 am
> > Subject: RE: Color Schemes, the good the bad and the visible
> >
> > > Here is some good info on color schemes for a pattern plane.  As
Terry
> > > stated, the important thing is that you see the plane in all
> > > conditions.From personal (and this is very personal) I have always
> > > liked the red white
> > > and blue color combinations and I can see them relatively well.
> > > Howeverlast year at the NATs I lost a sight of my plane for a
> > > split second in a
> > > vertical upline with a roll and had to relay on the memory and
> > > thrust where
> > > the plane could/should be.  Normally I use dark blue, in this case
> > > bottom of
> > > fuse and main theme of the wings was light blue and it generally
> > > shows well
> > > against the east coast sky, but that day at the NATs the sky was
> > > perfectblue with no hint of clouds or humidity - the colors
> > > matched perfectly; the
> > > sky and the wing fuse combination.  The guideline here is to not
> > > just select
> > > what looks good on the ground and is visible (generally gray scale
> > > contrasting colors work best), try to compare against the
> > > background that
> > > you will see the plane during normal practice/contests.  White
> > > tips and
> > > leading edges are a good idea too.  On one of my planes I did put
> > > a highly
> > > reflective holographic silver tape (glider guys are using this
> > > stuff) - it
> > > helped a lot during landings in the evenings when the visibility
> > > is bad
> > > especially at low altitude and during sunny days, you could not
> > > miss the
> > > leading edge even if you wanted to.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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