Swallow & Also Servos

[Thomas Shaw]

Wade,
Did you say that you have a Perry pump on this?  I've been looking at the
GMS 75 and I thought about using a Kline pressure regulator on it.  I have a
GMS 60 that has been a tremndous engine.  Add to that the fact that MECOA
will give $20 off if I trade in one of my old control line motors and I can
pick up GMS 75 for $69.95.
----- Original Message -----
From: Wade Akle <wbakle at charter.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Swallow & Also Servos


> Incheol,
> APC 12x6 runs 10,600+ peak, backed to 10,000. With the 13x6 I expect a
drop
> of 500-700 rpm. The Tower standard carb is 4 turns out; never seen this
much
> before as most OS engines are 1 to 1.5 turns. Mid-range is sloppy but I
> have -30% expo which I'm thinking of taking out. I would hate to add a
Perry
> carb to a $99 engine! Like a Ford with racing tires?
> Wade
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ihncheol Park" <PatternFlyer at msn.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:57 PM
> Subject: RE: Swallow & Also Servos
>
>
> > Wade,
> >
> > APC 15x8? @ 10K? or 15% nitro 18% oil fuel?
> > 91FX/SX-H with muffler turns APC 13x8 @11100, 15x8 @8400, 16x8 @7500
rpm,
> > 20% coolpower.
> >
> > Your Tower 75 sounds to be a great engine at a very low cost!
> > Any midrange richness?
> >
> > My 91SX-H is very rich in the middle and only 1/2 turn out for highspeed
> > needle.
> > I have a Perry pump ready to fine tune the mid-range.  Then, there will
be
> a
> > tuned pipe (tried with 15x8 @ 9400 rpm and still more header to cut).
> > I just hope this combination can run close to YS 91.
> >
> > I just wish I had my fuel delivered today.  Not enough fuel left to fly
> any.
> >
> > Ihncheol
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Wade Akle
> > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:20 PM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: Swallow & Also Servos
> >
> >
> > Tower 75 with 12x6 (planning on 13x6 when fully broken-in), APC 15x18
> fuel,
> > 10,000 rpm (slightly rich). It does very large Advanced maneuvers.
> > I'm puzzled, an OS 91FX should rocket it into space!!
> > Before I got the 75 I used the Tower 61 for a few flights. It worked,
but
> > the maneuvers were labored.
> > Wade
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "glenn hatfield" <randy10926 at comcast.net>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 7:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: Swallow & Also Servos
> >
> >
> > > I am surprised that the Tower 75 is enough power for advanced.  I have
> > > a OS 91FX in mine and do not seem to have enough power for
> > > intermediate.  What prop are you running and what RPM to you get?
> > >
> > > Randy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Wade Akle <wbakle at charter.net>
> > > Date: Friday, June 27, 2003 9:02 am
> > > Subject: Swallow & Also Servos
> > >
> > > > Paul,
> > > > I built the Swallow as a bare-bones demo for my flying buddies to
> > > > show them
> > > > that you could fly pattern as sport. Therefore, stock Tower 75
> > > > muffler, no
> > > > pipes or any pattern goodies. To my surprise, I am enjoying flying
> > > > Advancedwith it and using it a lot more than my full size
> > > > patterns. I guess its the
> > > > freedom of knowing that the investment is low, the size
> > > > convenient, and the
> > > > setup easy.
> > > >
> > > > By the way, I also used standard servos after reading on this site
the
> > > > results of the Australian UAV research on servo selections. I was
> > > > amazedthat so few responses were made about the Aussie results.
> > > > It's one thing to
> > > > have the money to buy the 'most expensive' it's another to ignore
> > > > data. We
> > > > are talking about standard resin gear servos centering and slop
> > > > compared to
> > > > servos 10x the cost.
> > > >
> > > > Wade
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Paul Horan" <phoran at vvm.com>
> > > > To: "Wade Akle" <wbakle at charter.net>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:03 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Swallow
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Wade,
> > > > >     It appears that the Swallow has a single piece mid-wing.  The
> > > > pipe/silencer tunnel is on the bottom side of the wing; therefore,
> > > > > the pipe must be removed when ever the wing is removed.  Is this
> > > > correct?
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Paul
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Wade Akle" <wbakle at charter.net>
> > > > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:36 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Swallow
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Eric,
> > > > > > I have a Swallow with Tower's .75 engine. Talk about
> > > > inexpensive, $330
> > > > for
> > > > > > them, but it proved to be a great choice and does Advanced
> > > > well, for me.
> > > > The
> > > > > > engine purrs below 1700 and roars up to 10000 rpm, never
> > > > missed. A
> > > > relief
> > > > > > from the YS and Webra's. Expensive pattern is by choice not
> > > > requirement,> > unless you compete at the national level. I have
> > > > built and flown many
> > > > full
> > > > > > pattern ships, that I enjoyed, but now I mix in easy,
> > > > inexpensive Fun.
> > > > > > I am very interested in a comparison of the Swallow with the
> > > > Quest.> > Wade
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Henderson,Eric" <Eric.Henderson at gartner.com>
> > > > > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 5:19 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Swallow
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good luck tomorrow Bill.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think the Swallow will like the power of the 1.30.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did my QUEST test flights today that I will post in a
> > > > separate note.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eric.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > > > > > [discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 5:50 PM
> > > > > > To: NSRCA discussion
> > > > > > Subject: Swallow
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just got a look at Eric's review of the Swallow.  Could hardly
> > > > have come
> > > > > > at a better time.  I'm testing mine tomorrow, weather
permitting.
> > > > > > Powered by a Y.S. 1.20, (the old one) it weighs just under 8-
> > > > 1/4 lbs.
> > > > > > After reading what he says, I believe I'll reduce my control
> > > > throw on
> > > > > > the elevators, at least, and maybe ailerons also.
> > > > > > I'll post to the list--boy, do I absolutely hate first flights!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill Glaze
> > > > > >
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