Mintor Here.....Mintor dere...Idley bar none

[Bill Carpenter]

Oh, the sting of your wit - Touche!

The Boxer is coming along just fine.  In the meantime I've gotten hold of a
Webra 145 and put it in the Focus, which will have to suffice until I can
get the Boxer flying.

Bill

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From: "Gray E Fowler" <gfowler at raytheon.com>
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: Mintor Here.....Mintor dere...Idley bar none
Date: Tue, Jun 24, 2003, 2:55 PM



Bill-there is not a performance cost by not using the bar...only a cost when
you do use one, about 200-300 rpm. That bar was there in the old days to
keep the element from getting splashed with fuel by the crappy no mid range
engines/carbs of yester year. Things in this here world done changed...Fox
has not. Wayne is just being "low cost".....break in plugs get trashed
anyway, why not use a cheapo. Only an idiot would go to a contest with the
"break in" plugs still in his engine.
Some things like idle bars and Boxers once had there place............hows
that Boxer coming along anyway?



Gray Fowler
Principal Chemical Engineer
Composites Engineering


"Bill Carpenter" <bcarpenter at greenvilleisp.net>
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Wayne,

I don't know what current thinking is regarding idle bars, but way back when
we abandoned using them because of the possibility that if one of them came
off the glow plug it would do damage to the engine.  I've seen what has
happened to an engine when some bearing balls got loose inside during a run.

I could be wrong, but it sounds like cheap insurance to avoid them, even if
there is a cost in performance.

Bill

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>From: "wgalligan" <wgalligan at cnbcom.net>
>To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>Subject: Re: re: Mintor Here.....
>Date: Tue, Jun 24, 2003, 12:26 PM
>

> I am breaking my Mintor 1.70 in on 2- Fox long w/idler bars.  Seems to be
> working just fine so far.  I'll keep you posted as it breaks in some more.
> BTW this is on the bench not in the air.
>
> Wayne G.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "V Bortone" <vbortone at comcast.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Cc: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: re: Mintor Here.....
>
>
>> OK.  Looks that figures are close.  Mine runs about 8,200 rpm also for
>> real setting.  If I peak engine on ground it will give a little over
>> 8,300 rpm.  However, I have to back up to around 8,200 rpm since the
>> engine will be too lean in the air.
>>
>> I think you can save some money using K&B 1L plugs.  Don't ask me why
>> but I see same performance than using OS F and/or A5 combinations.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Vicente
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jon Uhler <juhler at bellsouth.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:34 am
>> Subject: re: Mintor Here.....
>>
>> > Vicente
>> >
>> > I am using the 17x10N as well.  I have a couple 17x12 N's that I
>> > plan on trying out, needed to get a new spinner first (Thanks
>> > Terry T. - just got back from vacation - check is OTW).
>> >
>> > So far I really love the 17x10N, but it rips every once and a
>> > while so I plan on trying the 12.
>> >
>> > This by far is the best engine that I have ever owned.  I am using
>> > the standard header with a Greive's pipe.  The header is un-cut.
>> > I am running Coolpower 15 % and still running it pretty rich.  I
>> > have a OS 8 and OS F plugs in the motor.  I am getting around 8200
>> > RPM's.
>> > Jon
>> >
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