Friday Night Masters' Question

Rcmaster199 at aol.com Rcmaster199 at aol.com
Sat Jun 21 09:56:44 AKDT 2003


Glad i could help

Matt

> Subj:Re: Friday Night Masters' Question 
> Date:6/21/2003 12:11:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> From:<A HREF="mailto:jivey61 at msn.com">jivey61 at msn.com</A>
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> 
> 
> Matt
>  I understand the way the rolls are viewed now. And it makes sense if you 
> call it a hesitation between 2, 1/4 rolls.
>  I have flown this way the whole time but never tried to reason it like 
> this.
>  Thanks
>  Jim Ivey
>  
> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com
>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:43 PM
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>> Subject: Re: Friday Night Masters' Question
>>  
>> In a message dated 6/20/2003 10:11:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
>> rcaerobob at cox.net writes:
>> 
>> 
>> >>> Subj:Re: Friday Night Masters' Question 
>>> Date:6/20/2003 10:11:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>>> From:<A HREF="mailto:rcaerobob at cox.net">rcaerobob at cox.net</A>
>>> Reply-to:<A HREF="mailto:discussion at nsrca.org">discussion at nsrca.org</A>
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>>> 
>>> Great info, and validates what I thought...
>>>     On the Cuban Eight, however, that's a hair-splitter....because the 
>>> transition from point to point occupies some distance based on the speed of 
>>> the roll, and the velocity of the airplane....sooooo....ya better have 
>>> REALLY, REALLY good eyes to distinguish that....or am I missing something 
>>> new...??
>>> 
>>> Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma
>>> NSRCA 199, IMAC 1320, AMA 46373
>>> <A HREF="mailto:rcaerobob at cox.net">rcaerobob at cox.net</A>
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>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> No I don't think you are missing it. Remember that roll rate must be the 
>> same in these situations so technically the 1/4 rolling elements should use up 
>> the same amount of sky (assuming constant model speed--on a downward 
>> diagonal, that is a good assumption).
>> 
>> The hesitation between the roll elements only needs to be present. 
>> I think the point is, establish the 45 , 1/4 roll befiore center and hold 
>> it past center, then 1/4 roll again, and re-establish the 45, then pitch.
>> 
>> I do think we have made the maneuver alot more difficult than it is. 
>> 
>> matt 
> 

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