The next thing - Biplanes???

[Terry Terrenoire]

Another problem for the more mortal builders among us is the weight.
Chip's plane was right on the edge both times I weighed it. Dave said he
could wipe off another ounce of residue if needed!

Terry T.


On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:26:38 -0500 "Lance Van Nostrand"
<patterndude at comcast.net> writes:
Chip has lost 3 of his 4 Double Vision Bipes because wings or stabs flew
off during flight.  I don't think material science is quite up to making
all of this surface area strong enough for the average anyone that can
only buy one or two planes a year.
  Chip yelled at Mike McConville (test flying Villwock's bipe) to slow it
down when he went to high throttle on a horizontal.  Chip also elected to
skip the windy round on Tuesday morning.

For Chip, its a great attraction and fits his style. For the rest of us,
it's not ready yet.
Just my humble O.
--Lance
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Marty Pizzitola 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: The next thing - Biplanes???


Very well stated !!!!! The world of pattern changes too fast for most
average pilots. A few set trends and the rest follow. Many changes are
not always for the better. THe cost to keep up with the Jone's has become
unreachable for many. This is not the first wave of Bipes to hit the
world of pattern and it probably won't be the last. I am waiting for the
few who set the trends to decide that the fat body, biplane, fixed gear,
digitalized pcm, EFI , and carbon fuse planes of today are not the
perfect flying machines, and go back to the good ole all balsa, 60 size
Dirty Birdy .
Bottom line is; it's not what you fly, but how you fly it. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com 
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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: The next thing - Biplanes???


I predict that Bipes are NOT the next big thing for Joe Average. Of
course, there is no pattern flier I know who considers himself Joe
Average, SOOOOO, yes many will likely flock to them. But there are very
few who are skilled enough to set them up correctly .  In today's ARF and
barf world of pattern, patience and building skill are becoming quite
scarce. For most of us, working a monoplane into submission is tough
work, let alone trying to figger out a new type of platform, with all its
complexity, like the Bipe.

Having said that, Chip flew his DV great at the Team Selection. Kenny
Lauter also. But these guys are on the upper echelon of competition in
this country. 

BTW, Bob Noll told me at the TS contest that CPLR is not very happy with
his bipe. It will be interesting to see if he campaigns it at the Worlds.

Matt


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However, monoplane wins NATS.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rodney Tanner" <rodney19821982 at yahoo.com>
To: "NSRCA" <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:29 PM
Subject: The next thing - Biplanes???


> Interesting:
> Chip wins the TOC, with his big Ultimate biplane. Dean
> Pappas discusses biplanes in his July column in Flying
> Models, saying the only thing they lacked before was
> power and that is no longer an issue. (Apparently CPL
> has a biper too. . )
> Chip wins the team sellection trials (report in latest
> KF)
> Then we hear about Chips stormin comeback, this week,
> at the Nats, with the Biplane again. 
> Things could get very interesting at the World Champs
> in Poland. . . 
> 
> Rodney
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