Gas Engine Comments

Tony Stillman tony at radiosouthrc.com
Mon Jan 20 04:59:54 AKST 2003


The FPE is "First Place Engines" sold by SIG.

Tony Stillman
Radio South, Inc.
3702 N. Pace Blvd.
Pensacola, Fl 32505
www.radiosouthrc.com
800-962-7802
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Seyfarth" <TJS at mail.global-electronics.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 10:44 PM
Subject: RE: Gas Engine Comments


> What's an FPE 2.4?  I had a Hangar 9 Cap 232 that exhibited stall
> characteristics all the time (high speed stalls in a gentle turn?!)  but I
> did buy another that is not yet finished.  Do youhave the same problem
with
> yours - instability?
>
> I ask about then engine since I donot yet have one for this airplane and
> thought about a G23.
>
> Tim
>
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> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ted Sander
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 6:04 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: RE: Gas Engine Comments
>
>
> OK Ron, maybe a real answer for you:
>
> I've flown a Hanger 9 CAP232, 76" for the past two years.  Year one had it
> equipped with a YS120SF, Slimline muffler, cast alum. motor mounts.
Decent
> performance, but not enough for trying 3D.  Closest I could come was with
an
> APC 17x6 and 30% Helicopter YS fuel.  But, that worked out to about $5 per
> flight.
>
> Bought an FPE 2.4.  All up weight, except for the battery, was exactly the
> same as all the YS related stuff I took off!  Engine is currently turning
> 7,400 with an APC 20x10.  After slightly more than one season, I'm still
in
> love with it.  Great power, weight not much of an issue.  Always starts,
> just like the manual says.  The cons:  With stock muffler, is loud.  Stock
> muffler needs to be shimmed out from the exhaust port (auto gasket
> material), else it rubs on the body of the engine.  Locktite the muffler
> screws, and safety wire the muffler to the plane (screws vibrate loose).
> This is my only gasser, so not much to compare it to - others report that
> vibration is higher than some others.  It is very noticeable at low idle,
> but except for the muffler screws, there have been no side effects on the
> rest of the aircraft after 1 year of intensive use.  I may explore soft
> mounting it this winter....if the mood strikes.  I also plan to spend the
> big dollars for a CF 21x8 prop, to both give me even more 3D capability,
and
> to be able to slow down quicker for decent landings (can't remember exact
> low idle - but do remember that it came out to be significantly lower than
> my YS was capable of!).  Would I buy another, even at full retail like
this
> one?  YES!  (and 22 cents per flight is way cool!!!!)
>
> Ted Sander
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On
> Behalf Of Ron Van Putte
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:07 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Gas Engine Comments
>
> This is a bit off topic, but I am in the market for a gas engine for an
> 80" World Models Extra 300 I just ordered.  I'm looking at the ZDZ-40,
> ZDZ-50, 3W-50 or a First Place 2.4.  I'm leaning toward the First Place
> 2.4, simply because I am a dealer and can get them from Sig, while
> e-mails to the 3W and ZDZ people went unanswered.  I know you guys never
> have any opinions <BG>, but can anyone offer comments about the engines'
> relative merits?
>
> Ron Van Putte
>
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