"Knockabout" -40-50 Sized Pattern

george kennie geobet at gis.net
Tue Dec 9 09:00:05 AKST 2003


Thanks Doug, for the enlightenment.
G.

Doug Cronkhite wrote:

> Actually.. the Lanier Razor is the Pilot Seduction Freestyle.
>
> -Doug
>
> On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, george kennie wrote:
>
> > Initially, when I first saw the Razor I thought it looked pretty
> > stylish, but on closer examination, a study of the specs revealed that
> > it's a "Lanier Venus'. Compare the WS, Fuse, Airfoil, and overall
> > planform. Pretty cotton-pickin' close!!! The force arrangement is also
> > allmost spot-on, with the exception that, with those servos in the tail,
> > it's a little more close coupled which makes it lose some precision to
> > the Venus. If you like the Venus, you'll probably like the Razor.
> > G.
> >
> > rcaerobob at cox.net wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, Jim.   My research has pretty well confirmed that it's
> > > probably better than the others. Then I found the Lanier Razor...it
> > > has a tapered planform, a little more fuse length, and not that fat,
> > > thick airfoil....so it's lookin pretty good.  Comments?
> > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > From: Woodward James R Civ 412 TW/DRP
> > > <James.Woodward2 at edwards.af.mil>
> > > > Date: 2003/12/08 Mon AM 11:29:44 EST
> > > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > Subject: RE: "Knockabout" -40-50 Sized Pattern
> > > >
> > > > Hi Bob,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I 2nd the Global Freestyle.  I used an Irvine .53 and had unlimited
> > > > performance with the muffler's internal baffle removed, 15% cool
> > > power.
> > > > This plane can do the slow-flight 3D stuff but can also point roll.
> > > I have
> > > > a Hype 3D which is noted on RCU as a better flyer than the Flip 3D.
> > > > However, the Hype cannot do point rolls and has SEVERE rudder
> > > induced roll &
> > > > pitch couple (3D's great though).  I think the Global Freestyle is a
> > > better
> > > > strike between the "Venus" and the "Flip 3D" type of planes.
> > > >
> > > > Jim W.
> > > >
> > > > Subject: "Knockabout" -40-50 Sized Pattern
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > After some surfing...and some emails...(thanks everyone)...here's a
> > > short
> > > > list...a "pattern" plane, but also capable of some throwing around
> > > semi-3D
> > > > stuff....that's the target!!!
> > > >
> > > >     I'd really appreciate hearing from anyone (off list would be
> > > just fine)
> > > > who has experience with ANY of these...pros and cons.  Here goes...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kyosho  Majestic 1400
> > > >
> > > > Kyosho  Flip 3D
> > > >
> > > > Great Planes Venus
> > > >
> > > > Great Planes U CanDo3D 46
> > > >
> > > > World Models - Tai Jai 40
> > > >
> > > > World Models - Zen 50
> > > >
> > > > Cermark Javelin
> > > >
> > > > Giant Scale Planes Giles 200-3D
> > > >
> > > > Giant Scale Planes Magpie
> > > >
> > > > Giant Scale Planes Lark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure there are others I've overlooked, but any feedback on these
> > > would
> > > > be helpful!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma
> > > > NSRCA 199, AMA 46373
> > > > rcaerobob at cox.net <mailto:rcaerobob at cox.net>
> > > > www.rcaerobats.net <http://www.rcaerobats.net>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Bob Pastorello, El Reno, OK, USA
> > > rcaerobob at cox.net
> > > www.rcaerobats.net
> > >
> > >    ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Hi Bob,
> > >
> > > I 2nd the Global Freestyle.  I used an Irvine .53 and had unlimited
> > > performance with the muffler's internal baffle removed, 15% cool
> > > power.  This plane can do the slow-flight 3D stuff but can also point
> > > roll.  I have a Hype 3D which is noted on RCU as a better flyer than
> > > the Flip 3D.  However, the Hype cannot do point rolls and has SEVERE
> > > rudder induced roll & pitch couple (3D's great though).  I think the
> > > Global Freestyle is a better strike between the "Venus" and the "Flip
> > > 3D" type of planes.
> > >
> > > Jim W.
> > >
> > > Subject: "Knockabout" -40-50 Sized Pattern
> > >
> > > After some surfing...and some emails...(thanks everyone)...here's a
> > > short list...a "pattern" plane, but also capable of some throwing
> > > around semi-3D stuff....that's the target!!!
> > >     I'd really appreciate hearing from anyone (off list would be just
> > > fine) who has experience with ANY of these...pros and cons.  Here
> > > goes...
> > > Kyosho  Majestic 1400
> > > Kyosho  Flip 3D
> > > Great Planes Venus
> > > Great Planes U CanDo3D 46
> > > World Models - Tai Jai 40
> > > World Models - Zen 50
> > > Cermark Javelin
> > > Giant Scale Planes Giles 200-3D
> > > Giant Scale Planes Magpie
> > > Giant Scale Planes Lark
> > > I'm sure there are others I've overlooked, but any feedback on these
> > > would be helpful!
> > >
> > > Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma
> > > NSRCA 199, AMA 46373
> > > rcaerobob at cox.net
> > > www.rcaerobats.net
> > >
> >
>
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